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Old 09-24-2011 | 05:29 PM
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Could someone help me out? Im really trying to figure this all out but being new I havent learned everything completely yet. Being about # 90ish of the Saab Fos being displaced and 170ish people below me on the latest list, any chance of getting something different than the Saab? Of course there are many variables. The way I see it is they want 168 Saab FOs so if every Saab FO was the most junior 168, And I stayed on it I would be pretty darn SR correct, or not be on it at all. Hopefully I am looking at it correctly.

FYI I dont have SJS, just looking to make the regional life a little easier, $$$$$ and hopefully a 1 leg commute from the 2 legger.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 05:30 PM
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Can anyone post the seniority range for the PCL CA's displaced out of MSP earlier this year? Trying to get an idea of the seniority range bidding back to MSP. Thanks
Think most displaced out of MSP and MEM are back. I think most were 02-04 hires (left seat obviously)
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Old 09-24-2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Think most displaced out of MSP and MEM are back. I think most were 02-04 hires (left seat obviously)
The most senior captain displaced out of MSP was probably close to an 05 hire, not 02-04 like MEM..In MSP there was some more senior guys that took the voluntary displacement but then came back.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
Could someone help me out? Im really trying to figure this all out but being new I havent learned everything completely yet. Being about # 90ish of the Saab Fos being displaced and 170ish people below me on the latest list, any chance of getting something different than the Saab? Of course there are many variables. The way I see it is they want 168 Saab FOs so if every Saab FO was the most junior 168, And I stayed on it I would be pretty darn SR correct, or not be on it at all. Hopefully I am looking at it correctly.

FYI I dont have SJS, just looking to make the regional life a little easier, $$$$$ and hopefully a 1 leg commute from the 2 legger.
You have to look at the final number of vacancy numbers after all the displacements.

This vacancy is going to create 83 new Captain positions and 11 new FO positions.

You have no way of knowing where everyone will go, but 83 FO's will upgrade in front of you system wide, moving you up.

Bid where you want and see how close you get seniority wise.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
You have to look at the final number of vacancy numbers after all the displacements.

This vacancy is going to create 83 new Captain positions and 11 new FO positions.

You have no way of knowing where everyone will go, but 83 FO's will upgrade in front of you system wide, moving you up.

Bid where you want and see how close you get seniority wise.
Good call, thanks for the info!
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Old 09-24-2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
Could someone help me out? Im really trying to figure this all out but being new I havent learned everything completely yet. Being about # 90ish of the Saab Fos being displaced and 170ish people below me on the latest list, any chance of getting something different than the Saab? Of course there are many variables. The way I see it is they want 168 Saab FOs so if every Saab FO was the most junior 168, And I stayed on it I would be pretty darn SR correct, or not be on it at all. Hopefully I am looking at it correctly.

FYI I dont have SJS, just looking to make the regional life a little easier, $$$$$ and hopefully a 1 leg commute from the 2 legger.
You mention being new, so you may still be in a seat lock.

3. First Officers
a. A First Officer may bid and be awarded a change of Domicile at any time.
b. A First Officer may not be awarded a change in Category (status and/or equipment) until:
i. Upgrade to Captain; or
ii. One (1) year after date of hire, to attain another First Officer position.
c. Following an award to a different aircraft as a First Officer, the Pilot may not be awarded a Captain Position for twelve (12) months or a new First Officer Category for twenty-four (24) months.
d. A Pilot subject to a First Officer freeze will be released from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain off the street.


Of course an involuntary displacement would remove the seat lock. Just bid where you want to end up and then hope you get it.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 06:54 PM
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I am in BOS so it is being released. I have what I really want on there so I can move home and live in base, I was just curious because there is so many damn numbers to try to figure out! I am just trying to figure out probability which is impossible. So bid is updated and fingers are crossed! Hope to get rid of this 2 leg commute!

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You mention being new, so you may still be in a seat lock.

3. First Officers
a. A First Officer may bid and be awarded a change of Domicile at any time.
b. A First Officer may not be awarded a change in Category (status and/or equipment) until:
i. Upgrade to Captain; or
ii. One (1) year after date of hire, to attain another First Officer position.
c. Following an award to a different aircraft as a First Officer, the Pilot may not be awarded a Captain Position for twelve (12) months or a new First Officer Category for twenty-four (24) months.
d. A Pilot subject to a First Officer freeze will be released from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain off the street.


Of course an involuntary displacement would remove the seat lock. Just bid where you want to end up and then hope you get it.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 07:05 PM
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Good luck Fly782. I have 2 legged it home a few times and can't imagine doing it every time. Where are you hoping to end up?
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Old 09-24-2011 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
I am in BOS so it is being released. I have what I really want on there so I can move home and live in base, I was just curious because there is so many damn numbers to try to figure out! I am just trying to figure out probability which is impossible. So bid is updated and fingers are crossed! Hope to get rid of this 2 leg commute!
Make sure you put BOS as your number one choice so you are assured of being treated as a displacement, then you go wherever your seniority can hold.
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Old 09-24-2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Make sure you put BOS as your number one choice so you are assured of being treated as a displacement, then you go wherever your seniority can hold.
I just changed that! Thanks. I was reading the contract though and it said senior pilots get awarded before displacements. Doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose of being treated as a displacement?

And I am hoping for MSP so I can move back home to MN finally( not holding my breath, although we are planning on moving regardless of whether or not I get it.)
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