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Old 10-11-2011 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
Here's my (our) point of view....I completely believe this is an innocent, non-planned computer issue. We get alot of those here. I don't care how long it takes to remedy. But if this happened 8 months ago, only to 9e, some of the 5% haters would have still stepped in and said "our MEC wouldn't let that happen! We would have made them test it first, or they would have a huge penalty! it WOULD be out by deadline!" or something of the sorts. It's the hypocrisy that sucks, not the conspiracy of why the award isn't out.
Do we know for a fact that the union isn't talking with the company right now? Its a totally different group of people running the company than it was 8 months ago. You know its not about constantly taking the opposing side of managment no matter what. Its about knowing when to take a stance on something. People were critical of your MEC because of poor decisions.
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Old 10-11-2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG
Do we know for a fact that the union isn't talking with the company right now? Its a totally different group of people running the company than it was 8 months ago. You know its not about constantly taking the opposing side of managment no matter what. Its about knowing when to take a stance on something. People were critical of your MEC because of poor decisions.
I'm sure they are talking. But that's just speculation as I've heard nothing about it from anyone. I'm sure our old MEC talked to them in simiar situations, but people choose not no believe that or only listen to what a biased coworker said, there are no facts. And when a good pinnacle rumor was proven fact, people still chose to ignore said facts. I thought arguing with a Democrat as a righty was tough.....man Glenn Beck and Pelosi ain't got nothin compared to these union arguments!

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Old 10-11-2011 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGRIG
Do we know for a fact that the union isn't talking with the company right now? Its a totally different group of people running the company than it was 8 months ago. You know its not about constantly taking the opposing side of managment no matter what. Its about knowing when to take a stance on something. People were critical of your MEC because of poor decisions.
Nobody knows if they're talking or not because they choose not to communicate with the people that elected them to their positions. Communication in our union is an absolute joke at best.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 05:07 AM
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Looks like Frank has changed our current positions on our preference bids to what the award will say. So some of us already know where we are going. It looks like several Mesaba guys are going to Q400 CA since any MSP captain position is now massively senior.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Looks like Frank has changed our current positions on our preference bids to what the award will say. So some of us already know where we are going. It looks like several Mesaba guys are going to Q400 CA since any MSP captain position is now massively senior.
That is weird, I wouldn't have expected that. Why would he go into the system and change positions, does that help him figure the award out?
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Old 10-12-2011 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Looks like Frank has changed our current positions on our preference bids to what the award will say. So some of us already know where we are going. It looks like several Mesaba guys are going to Q400 CA since any MSP captain position is now massively senior.
Colgan changed ours as well, but I don't think thy are correct. I got a Position that I know I can't hold. I wouldn't put too much into this.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 07:04 AM
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Colgan changed ours as well, but I don't think thy are correct. I got a Position that I know I can't hold. I wouldn't put too much into this.
If this true then I'm upgrading to ATL 900... must be a cold day in hell.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 07:23 AM
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FWIW, mine changed but doesn't reflect my #1 choice.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
Here's my (our) point of view....I completely believe this is an innocent, non-planned computer issue. We get alot of those here. I don't care how long it takes to remedy. But if this happened 8 months ago, only to 9e, some of the 5% haters would have still stepped in and said "our MEC wouldn't let that happen! We would have made them test it first, or they would have a huge penalty! it WOULD be out by deadline!" or something of the sorts. It's the hypocrisy that sucks, not the conspiracy of why the award isn't out.
This. He just said it better than I did.
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Old 10-12-2011 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Looks like Frank has changed our current positions on our preference bids to what the award will say. So some of us already know where we are going. It looks like several Mesaba guys are going to Q400 CA since any MSP captain position is now massively senior.
I wouldn't start writing those checks and buying that new car yet.
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