GoJets Hiring
10-05-2006 | 02:21 PM
#12
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they've been hirnig both pilots and flight attendants (and they seem to get the good looking flight attendants at that...TSA's gettin the shaft on that deal)
Basic jist of why they are who they are is to fly larger airplanes, unfortunately for the same money as trans states airlines, also, they're owned by the same person as TSA, trained in the same building, but are somehow considered seperate companies. (they're both owned under trans States HOldings)
However, they're no longer non-union, just non ALPA...they're currently repped by the teamsters.
Basic jist of why they are who they are is to fly larger airplanes, unfortunately for the same money as trans states airlines, also, they're owned by the same person as TSA, trained in the same building, but are somehow considered seperate companies. (they're both owned under trans States HOldings)
However, they're no longer non-union, just non ALPA...they're currently repped by the teamsters.
10-05-2006 | 04:28 PM
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BTW, does anybody want to answer my question about the anti-GOJET website?
10-05-2006 | 05:05 PM
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10-06-2006 | 04:15 AM
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10-06-2006 | 12:19 PM
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"Scabs"
All this animosity within our industry makes me sick. I have heard the stories of people hating GoJets pilots. Hate the management, fine; but don't take it out on the pilots. It's absurd.
I hear arguments that these pilots are "scabs" (really, they're a healing bruise? What an absolutely rediculous vernacular to use in this context). Why are they hated? Because they are paid so little? They are paid more than their repsected industry siblings at Trans States. Even if that weren't the case, why would you treat badly someone who is not making much money? That's dispicable. Poorly paid people are working long hard hours to come home and have difficulty paying their rent or their bills. Cut 'em a break. Because they don't have a union? Well, GoJets does. But even if they didn't, or even if the contract provided lousy working conditions, that means they are putting up with more crap than they should be and that ought to warrant sympathy, not ridicule. Depending on how you look at it, the pilots either have the same situations as the rest of the regional industry or worse conditions that should generate respect.
So management has created a company that can operate with lower operating costs and can outbid other regionals for routes. First off, that is the simple premise behind capitalism and its fundamental principle of supply and demand. Secondly, any anger should be directed at management, not pilots. Pilots are just doing their job.
So, they say, pilots should not work for this company. Okay, great solution. But can this ever really be implemented? Where are their pilots coming from? $12,000/year flight instructing jobs in dilapitated Cessnas and Pipers. Come on, you've all been there. You can only live so long without being able to pay for food, shelter, and tens of thousands of dollars of student loans.
GoJets is obviously nobody's first choice. Pilots flying there would have gone to a better company in a heartbeat if it were plausable at the time. They have done nothing wrong and should be respected as anyone else in the industry.
That being said, I woudn't go there. I am one of the rare flight instructors who have fallen into a well paying gig and I can wait a little longer until some better company will hire me. Not many of us have that luxury.
Ooh, people are going to hate me on this one. But that's just how I see it. We're all in this small industry together. There's no room for this kind of fraternal hatred.
I hear arguments that these pilots are "scabs" (really, they're a healing bruise? What an absolutely rediculous vernacular to use in this context). Why are they hated? Because they are paid so little? They are paid more than their repsected industry siblings at Trans States. Even if that weren't the case, why would you treat badly someone who is not making much money? That's dispicable. Poorly paid people are working long hard hours to come home and have difficulty paying their rent or their bills. Cut 'em a break. Because they don't have a union? Well, GoJets does. But even if they didn't, or even if the contract provided lousy working conditions, that means they are putting up with more crap than they should be and that ought to warrant sympathy, not ridicule. Depending on how you look at it, the pilots either have the same situations as the rest of the regional industry or worse conditions that should generate respect.
So management has created a company that can operate with lower operating costs and can outbid other regionals for routes. First off, that is the simple premise behind capitalism and its fundamental principle of supply and demand. Secondly, any anger should be directed at management, not pilots. Pilots are just doing their job.
So, they say, pilots should not work for this company. Okay, great solution. But can this ever really be implemented? Where are their pilots coming from? $12,000/year flight instructing jobs in dilapitated Cessnas and Pipers. Come on, you've all been there. You can only live so long without being able to pay for food, shelter, and tens of thousands of dollars of student loans.
GoJets is obviously nobody's first choice. Pilots flying there would have gone to a better company in a heartbeat if it were plausable at the time. They have done nothing wrong and should be respected as anyone else in the industry.
That being said, I woudn't go there. I am one of the rare flight instructors who have fallen into a well paying gig and I can wait a little longer until some better company will hire me. Not many of us have that luxury.
Ooh, people are going to hate me on this one. But that's just how I see it. We're all in this small industry together. There's no room for this kind of fraternal hatred.
10-06-2006 | 12:36 PM
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its really not about pay scales. it is about doing the right thing and not stabing your fellow pilots in the back. the flying the gojet pilots are doing is a result of the hard work the transtates pilots did under their united contract. the pilots should of been rewarded with the 70 seat flying, but were not, even though it was in their contract to do so. management held a carrot in front of the pilots with these aircraft and the additional flying but the pilots at transstates did not want to continue the race towards the bottom. eventually it resulted in about 50 pilots from transstates being furloughed. these pilots at gojets have no respect for others in my book. they will eventually get what they deserve. recruiters at the last Air Inc. job fair asked me about Gojets so the word is getting out. Gojet pilots are even saying they work for transstates holdings on their resume. they obviously must know they are doing something wrong. they will always have that scarlet letter G on them for rest of their career.
10-06-2006 | 12:44 PM
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From: Looking Forward
Depending on how you look at it, the pilots either have the same situations as the rest of the regional industry or worse conditions that should generate respect.
That being said, I woudn't go there. I am one of the rare flight instructors who have fallen into a well paying gig and I can wait a little longer until some better company will hire me. Not many of us have that luxury.
Ooh, people are going to hate me on this one. But that's just how I see it. We're all in this small industry together. There's no room for this kind of fraternal hatred.
10-06-2006 | 02:49 PM
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From: ERJ Right Seat
All this animosity within our industry makes me sick. I have heard the stories of people hating GoJets pilots. Hate the management, fine; but don't take it out on the pilots. It's absurd.
I hear arguments that these pilots are "scabs" (really, they're a healing bruise? What an absolutely rediculous vernacular to use in this context). Why are they hated? Because they are paid so little? They are paid more than their repsected industry siblings at Trans States. Even if that weren't the case, why would you treat badly someone who is not making much money? That's dispicable. Poorly paid people are working long hard hours to come home and have difficulty paying their rent or their bills. Cut 'em a break. Because they don't have a union? Well, GoJets does. But even if they didn't, or even if the contract provided lousy working conditions, that means they are putting up with more crap than they should be and that ought to warrant sympathy, not ridicule. Depending on how you look at it, the pilots either have the same situations as the rest of the regional industry or worse conditions that should generate respect.
So management has created a company that can operate with lower operating costs and can outbid other regionals for routes. First off, that is the simple premise behind capitalism and its fundamental principle of supply and demand. Secondly, any anger should be directed at management, not pilots. Pilots are just doing their job.
So, they say, pilots should not work for this company. Okay, great solution. But can this ever really be implemented? Where are their pilots coming from? $12,000/year flight instructing jobs in dilapitated Cessnas and Pipers. Come on, you've all been there. You can only live so long without being able to pay for food, shelter, and tens of thousands of dollars of student loans.
GoJets is obviously nobody's first choice. Pilots flying there would have gone to a better company in a heartbeat if it were plausable at the time. They have done nothing wrong and should be respected as anyone else in the industry.
That being said, I woudn't go there. I am one of the rare flight instructors who have fallen into a well paying gig and I can wait a little longer until some better company will hire me. Not many of us have that luxury.
Ooh, people are going to hate me on this one. But that's just how I see it. We're all in this small industry together. There's no room for this kind of fraternal hatred.
I hear arguments that these pilots are "scabs" (really, they're a healing bruise? What an absolutely rediculous vernacular to use in this context). Why are they hated? Because they are paid so little? They are paid more than their repsected industry siblings at Trans States. Even if that weren't the case, why would you treat badly someone who is not making much money? That's dispicable. Poorly paid people are working long hard hours to come home and have difficulty paying their rent or their bills. Cut 'em a break. Because they don't have a union? Well, GoJets does. But even if they didn't, or even if the contract provided lousy working conditions, that means they are putting up with more crap than they should be and that ought to warrant sympathy, not ridicule. Depending on how you look at it, the pilots either have the same situations as the rest of the regional industry or worse conditions that should generate respect.
So management has created a company that can operate with lower operating costs and can outbid other regionals for routes. First off, that is the simple premise behind capitalism and its fundamental principle of supply and demand. Secondly, any anger should be directed at management, not pilots. Pilots are just doing their job.
So, they say, pilots should not work for this company. Okay, great solution. But can this ever really be implemented? Where are their pilots coming from? $12,000/year flight instructing jobs in dilapitated Cessnas and Pipers. Come on, you've all been there. You can only live so long without being able to pay for food, shelter, and tens of thousands of dollars of student loans.
GoJets is obviously nobody's first choice. Pilots flying there would have gone to a better company in a heartbeat if it were plausable at the time. They have done nothing wrong and should be respected as anyone else in the industry.
That being said, I woudn't go there. I am one of the rare flight instructors who have fallen into a well paying gig and I can wait a little longer until some better company will hire me. Not many of us have that luxury.
Ooh, people are going to hate me on this one. But that's just how I see it. We're all in this small industry together. There's no room for this kind of fraternal hatred.
Flight instructor? Wow, that gives you such an inside on this industry...I'll tell you what, why don't you wait until you get a 121 job, and learn the dynamics of the industry from the inside, and then you can behold us with your wisdom! Even, better, why don't you explain to a couple of my best friends why is ok to get displaced by an alter ego airline, and why they're so wrong?!?!?!? You sound like a perfect candidate for gojets.
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