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Old 11-07-2011 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
I'm trying to decide whether to throw a couple thousand dollars at RJET first thing in the morning. The potential upside seems to outweigh the downside, but I haven't done well in the past.
That's because individuals don't invest in airlines, major companies do. Don't get me wrong, if the company offers you free shares, sure take it. Putting your own nickel into one and expecting a high return or a return at all? Well, look at your past. You mine as well open that little window of yours at 36k ft and toss your money out there. You have better chance of getting some of it back.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by F9 A319
Scratching my head. So, you're saying you support the Company's (RAH) decision that Native RAH pilots were required to resign their RAH and IMSL numbers to accept employment at Frontier?

How do you feel about the MEA pilots not having to resign their IMSL #?
1. no RAH pilot is required to re-interview to switch certificates. your FOs will like that when they can bid RW E190 captain and not have to re-interview or abandon their number. the only reason that happened before is we weren't officially a single carrier.

2. the reason MEA didnt have to is simple. the RW FO postion is so cheap that whether its new hire or 5th year, it doesn't matter. The RAH management feared having a RW/S5/RP FO transfer to F9 at 5th year pay scales.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 06:15 AM
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Looks like you should have put a few thousand down!!! wow! Returning 4 Airbus though... poop
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Old 11-08-2011 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MusicPilot
That's because individuals don't invest in airlines, major companies do. Don't get me wrong, if the company offers you free shares, sure take it. Putting your own nickel into one and expecting a high return or a return at all? Well, look at your past. You mine as well open that little window of yours at 36k ft and toss your money out there. You have better chance of getting some of it back.
Up about 20% this morning. Glad individuals don't invest... Pilots think we know EVERYTHING.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MusicPilot
. You mine as well open that little window of yours at 36k ft and toss your money out there. You have better chance of getting some of it back.
Damn! I should have learned not to listen to you several weeks ago. Up 30% over yesterday.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
Up about 20% this morning. Glad individuals don't invest... Pilots think we know EVERYTHING.

Well, I know not to invest an in airline and I know that RJET's not out of the woods yet, well Frontier that is. Good luck and let me know in a week how much more you're earning. Maybe you can splurge and buy your FO that cup of coffee.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MusicPilot
Well, I know not to invest an in airline and I know that RJET's not out of the woods yet, well Frontier that is. Good luck and let me know in a week how much more you're earning. Maybe you can splurge and buy your FO that cup of coffee.
I'm always happy to buy for my coworkers. Esprit de corps and all that, not to mention I genuinely like most of the folks I work with.

I don't invest in my own company. I already have too much of my income tied to it already. They may be good trades, but the industry as a whole is a bad investment.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
I don't invest in my own company. I already have too much of my income tied to it already.
Please don't remind me of that. Up 60% now. #&%$^%!!!!
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Old 11-08-2011 | 10:11 AM
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Republic Soars Most Since 2009 With Frontier Separation Set - Businessweek

November 08, 2011, 12:10 PM EST

By Mary Schlangenstein
(Updates with CEO’s comment in fourth paragraph.)

Nov. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Republic Airways Holdings Inc. jumped the most since 2009 after expanding the restructuring of the Frontier Airlines unit and saying it plans to separate from the carrier acquired out of bankruptcy two years ago.

Agreements have been reached to cut lease payments on some planes, defer deliveries of others and return two to lessors, the company said in a statement. Chief Executive Officer Bryan Bedford said today he expects an unspecified number of job cuts, and asset sales and new debt also are being evaluated.

Buying Frontier moved Indianapolis-based Republic away from its traditional role of providing regional flights for carriers such as Delta Air Lines Inc. and into competition on main jet routes. Analysts surveyed by Bloomberg project the parent company will post a second straight annual loss in 2011.

“It is time to start to separate the two businesses,” Bedford said on a conference call. Frontier “is going to be attractive either to private equity or our shareholders or possibly to strategic investors.”

Republic gained 32 percent to $3.54 at 11:33 a.m. in New York, the biggest intraday advance since June 23, 2009. The shares fell 63 percent this year through yesterday.

Bedford said Republic was hiring advisers to “begin the process of looking for shareholder-friendly options to monetize” Frontier. The turnaround effort at the unit includes parking smaller regional jets to focus on flying larger Airbus SAS and Embraer SA models.

Cash Balance

Absent additional action, the company’s unrestricted cash balance may fall as low as $150 million by the end of this quarter, Republic said.

The company said it achieved “substantially” all of an initial $120 million restructuring of Frontier that included concessions from employees, vendors and aircraft lessors. That set the stage for Republic to return to its roots as a commuter carrier and separate from Frontier, Bedford said.

Third-quarter profit excluding some items fell to $20.4 million, or 40 cents a share, from $25.9 million, or 70 cents, a year earlier. On that basis, Republic beat the 24-cent average of seven analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Net Income

Including $10 million in pretax costs related to a storm in Denver and expenses linked to fuel-purchase contracts and fleet changes, net income declined 58 percent to $9 million, or 18 cents, from $21.2 million, or 58 cents. Revenue increased 7.9 percent to $767.9 million.

The profit followed three consecutive quarterly losses.

The company earlier said it would maintain a minimum unrestricted cash balance of $200 million, a goal it fell short of last quarter.

Concessions from lessors will reduce the company’s Airbus A319 lease payments by $26 million in 2012. Republic will return four A319s in 2012’s first quarter. While Republic will accept of two Embraer E190 planes this quarter, it deferred delivery of four more E190s for an unspecified time and will end leases early on two additional E190s, returning them to lessors in late 2012.

Bedford told employees in a memo last month that an agreement with Embraer on deferring new planes would make about $20 million in cash available to Republic.

Republic said it completed a previously announced agreement to buy 80 planes from Airbus that it expects will enter Frontier’s fleet in 2016’s second half. It also finished an accord with engine maker CFM International Inc. for a fuel-burn guarantee on the new Airbus planes that sets future spare engine pricing and reduced overhaul costs for existing Airbus engines.

Steps under study in a second round of restructuring at Frontier, totaling about $113 million, include selling flight slots at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport valued at almost $50 million, and 10 Embraer E190 jets, for about $40 million, according to Bedford’s memo.
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Old 11-08-2011 | 01:10 PM
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good riddance, lets move on
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