You have no first hand knowledge, but think: And in your uninformed opinion:
Tend to your knitting and leave our problems to us.

This is an academic exercise anyway. RAH's 357 isn't going to be released to strike. Best case scenario is that the RAH guys get realistic and negotiate some scheduling improvements and a raise, do their time at the commuters until the age 65 rule turns five, and move on. Worst case is they continue on their present path, have a PEB impaneled in a year or so, and have a new contract they have no say in forced upon them by a congress who doesn't want to drive to IAD.

I agree:

 

You really have a tough time with clarity of thought.

A scab is someone who crosses a picket line. Period.

I'm assuming you are referring to me in the second sentence above, and it's not what I said.

On the third line, company, union and pilot group have absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm guessing that you were misinformed by IBT and/or you are new in the industry, so I guess I can forgive your lack of knowledge. I'll attempt to inform you on some other items:

Are you honestly saying that FAPA is composed of and run by someone other than the Frontier pilots? In sueing over LOA 67, IBT is attacking the careers of EVERY Frontier pilot.

FAPA had nothing to do with the outcome of the Southwest bid. Even if we had rolled over, the bid would have still been turned down. Decisions like that are made by management, not unions.

And by that, you mean for us to stand with you, against us.

Here's a better question: If we get to negotiating an amalgamated contract, and the RAH pilots authorize a strike, but the F9 pilots don't, what happens?

The vast majority of us are not.

 

There will never be an amalgamated contract.

We will not even begin the JCBA negotiations until after RAH pilots negotiate/mediate/strike their way into modifying (or not) 4 sections of their currently amendable CBA (now in Mediation).

But, even if we were negotiating a JCBA, each party would be bound by their CBA until the membership (357) voted in the JCBA.

 

The vast majority of you should be fired.

 

Apparently this is your definition of a scab. (above)

For all I care you can have your company and your planes. F9 was a sinking ship that, fortunately for them, had someone come in and save them. Unfortunately, it's been bleeding the company that saved them. Now, if you think that F9 can make it on their own then more power to you. There's no way F9 would have the capital to fend off WN and UniCal. Maybe switching to a different hub or trying more point to point might help, but any direction you go competition's there ready to battle.

I don't wish it on any pilot to lose their job. Been there, done that, which means I'm not new to the industry. I've also seen where one sister company bleeds the life out of the others. With that said, I would hope that the F9 pilots really think hard about the direction they want to go and the battles they want to fight. From what I've seen and heard from RAH's Board is that BB's been told, make a profit or cut the cord. RP and F9 always have to remember that RAH is not in the business of owning airlines but making money.

 

Damn!! You shouldn't have said that. I just jizzed in my pants.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Work on your reading comprehension. The sentence makes it clear that at best, it might be my definition of scab. For the record, it's not.

 

Want to bet a frosty sixer of coors light (that's all I can afford topped out at $36.62/hr)? We're in an election year of a liberal President who hasn't done much for labor to this point, besides not criticizing Jimmy Hoffa for being an idiot. This is the perfect opportunity for BHO to support unions without any real consequence. This isn't a major airline we're talking about here. Southwest could pick up the slack in DEN & MKE overnight. Any 3 regionals could cover our "fixed fee" flying within a month. If we were attempting to be released last year, or in a year from now, I'd be pessimistic. Fortunately, the timing couldn't be better.

We are being realistic. We're not asking for anything that most regionals don't already have. Min day, trip/duty rig, cancellation pay, better RSV rules, an FO payscale past 4 years, a vacancy section that honors seniority... All contractual sticking points that our "commuter" brethren enjoy. Sure we've proposed Jetblue or better on the 190/195, but I don't think it will be the most important issue in a TA.

Either you're flame-bating & enjoy trying to demoralize us, or you're out of touch with current regional work rules.

I personally don't expect a single F9 pilot to honor our picket line. What I do expect is support for our effort in achieving a better quality of life and realistic compensation for our First Officers. I would support any pilot group with the same goal.

 

Couldn't have said it better. It's getting old now.

 

+10 Post of the thread!!

 

commuters? yawn....you really need to excuse yourself from the Frontier circle j**k and start joining reality.