IBT 357 (futile) Strike Vote at RAH
11-03-2011 | 11:14 AM
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We took a pay freeze as part of a restructuring plan that will allow us to continue and separate from your operation.
You may want to take a look before you continue in that vein:
Airline Pilot Central - United | Legacy
[URL="http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/frontier.html"]Airline Pilot Central - Frontier | Major-National-LCC
You may want to take a look before you continue in that vein:
Airline Pilot Central - United | Legacy
[URL="http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/frontier.html"]Airline Pilot Central - Frontier | Major-National-LCC
11-03-2011 | 12:16 PM
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11-03-2011 | 12:17 PM
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The problem is that in protecting your backs, we lose the shirt off ours.
Did the court force the cuts on them, or were they negotiated? When did UA exit backruptcy? How many hours a month are they flying? How much more has their contract been gutted compared to ours? You might also want to compare us to IBT represented carriers before you start start throwing stones.
It's a little different when the bankruptcy court forces your wages versus a pilot group volunteering to cut their wages (freezing your salary to me is the same thing as taking a pay cut). We'll see what happens when they finally merge the pilot group's (UniCal) contract. Maybe its you that should look!
Did the court force the cuts on them, or were they negotiated? When did UA exit backruptcy? How many hours a month are they flying? How much more has their contract been gutted compared to ours? You might also want to compare us to IBT represented carriers before you start start throwing stones.
11-03-2011 | 04:16 PM
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Ha, yeah I knew you'd go there. It's a little different when the bankruptcy court forces your wages versus a pilot group volunteering to cut their wages (freezing your salary to me is the same thing as taking a pay cut). We'll see what happens when they finally merge the pilot group's (UniCal) contract. Maybe its you that should look!
Our concessions, both in bankruptcy and after, have pay snap backs, equity/profit sharing, and kept us out of 1113. Our work rules were never touched and are superior to our neighbors on B as well. Nobody wanted to give concessions, but working with management has kept our QOL high and our pay above average.
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11-03-2011 | 05:16 PM
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I'm keeping my eyes open. I went there because B concourse is half full of UAL/CAL pilots making less/same as us and half full of commuter pilots making MUCH less than us. C concourse is SWA and their pilots make more than any domestic passenger narrow body pilots around. Your 190 rates violate your rule don't they?
Our concessions, both in bankruptcy and after, have pay snap backs, equity/profit sharing, and kept us out of 1113. Our work rules were never touched and are superior to our neighbors on B as well. Nobody wanted to give concessions, but working with management has kept our QOL high and our pay above average.
Flame away
Our concessions, both in bankruptcy and after, have pay snap backs, equity/profit sharing, and kept us out of 1113. Our work rules were never touched and are superior to our neighbors on B as well. Nobody wanted to give concessions, but working with management has kept our QOL high and our pay above average.
Flame away
The Republic pilots do make a lot less than you. Their goal is to raise their pay but not to anywhere near your current levels. You guys will end up getting paid about the same when it's all said and done. It will be a little bit above what the Republic pilots are currently making and a lot less than you are currently making.
I hope I'm wrong. If I had my way, we would all be making what Southwest, Fedex, and UPS pilots are making.
11-03-2011 | 05:33 PM
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He's worth 2 to 3 times that much. Perhaps you'd have a contract if you had someone as good as he is on your side.
11-04-2011 | 07:47 AM
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11-04-2011 | 11:00 AM
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A veiled threat to ""out" me on APC or of physical violence? Aspersions cast upon my character by the author of such gems as:
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I stand corrected about the small RJs. They are scheduled to be removed from Frontier flying mid November, except evidently for the EAS contract that won't let us leave yet.
Tiller, we'll be separate again soon and you can go envy the tiller of somebody else. In the mean time I'll keep crying about the actions of 357 leadership as I please. You shouldn't expect me or the other F9 pilots to be happy about the situation we find ourselves in with respect to the botched seniority list integration.
I'm not trolling for your commentary, simply calling it as I see it.
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I stand corrected about the small RJs. They are scheduled to be removed from Frontier flying mid November, except evidently for the EAS contract that won't let us leave yet.
Tiller, we'll be separate again soon and you can go envy the tiller of somebody else. In the mean time I'll keep crying about the actions of 357 leadership as I please. You shouldn't expect me or the other F9 pilots to be happy about the situation we find ourselves in with respect to the botched seniority list integration.
I'm not trolling for your commentary, simply calling it as I see it.
There. Fixed that for you.
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