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Old 10-24-2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH

Sounds like you are looking for a hobby, not a career. Please do us all a favor: either rethink your priorities, or buy a Mooney and be happy sucking off your gal's (or guy's) financial teat.
Really, That selfish? Someone else can't enjoy what they want in their life because they might be getting in your way? Please don't speak for "all" of us as we are not all like you. Thanks
Old 10-24-2011 | 09:37 PM
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If you aren't worried about the pay, why let the cost of your vacation bother you?

Look, I'm glad that your situation leaves you with excess cash, but to come and start nitpicking over what will tun out to be frivolous stuff seems a bit immature.
Old 10-25-2011 | 12:56 AM
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Really, That selfish? Someone else can't enjoy what they want in their life because they might be getting in your way? Please don't speak for "all" of us as we are not all like you. Thanks
No, all of "us" are not like me. I have a skill and expect a reasonable pay for it. Apparently, you do not value your skill.

Actually, I'm not particularly selfish. I have been in this sector for 14 years. I am one of those folks that is perfectly happy being the biggest fish in a little pond (a puddle jumping lifer). I like the life and have no desire to fly across oceans (flights over an hour bore me to he!!). I DO have an issue with folks that care nothing for pay (and as an extension, quality of life).

The OP said his SO would provide income such that he didn't care about pay. Maybe he would think differently if I said I would do his SO's job for nothing just because I wanted to make it a "career" and eventually his SO was paid a pittance because I and a zillion other people would do the work for free.

I paint and do photography as hobbies. I do these things because I enjoy them. But I would NEVER want to take jobs away from professionals who do these things. They are my HOBBIES not my CAREER.

I fly AS A PROFESSION because it pays the bills, and I enjoy it more that scrubbing toilets. Still, it is a JOB. I am pretty good at it, and I expect to be paid for my proficiency. If that is being selfish, then yes, I am selfish. Perhaps you do not value your skills, but I do.
Old 10-25-2011 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
No, all of "us" are not like me. I have a skill and expect a reasonable pay for it. Apparently, you do not value your skill.

Actually, I'm not particularly selfish. I have been in this sector for 14 years. I am one of those folks that is perfectly happy being the biggest fish in a little pond (a puddle jumping lifer). I like the life and have no desire to fly across oceans (flights over an hour bore me to he!!). I DO have an issue with folks that care nothing for pay (and as an extension, quality of life).

The OP said his SO would provide income such that he didn't care about pay. Maybe he would think differently if I said I would do his SO's job for nothing just because I wanted to make it a "career" and eventually his SO was paid a pittance because I and a zillion other people would do the work for free.

I paint and do photography as hobbies. I do these things because I enjoy them. But I would NEVER want to take jobs away from professionals who do these things. They are my HOBBIES not my CAREER.

I fly AS A PROFESSION because it pays the bills, and I enjoy it more that scrubbing toilets. Still, it is a JOB. I am pretty good at it, and I expect to be paid for my proficiency. If that is being selfish, then yes, I am selfish. Perhaps you do not value your skills, but I do.
LOL, not selfish at all are you? You hit the nail on the head. I don't value my skill. It's always been my prospective that a monkey could learn to fly as long as you beat him with hard enough stick. ????? Your post sounds like it should be in a GJ rant. WTH does OP's question have anything to do with some SE taking over a FO job or accepting employment at a lesser because he was enroute to an easy A? He asked a dam question about hotel points!! Not all jobs and companies are created equal and this extends outside the airlines. Many professionals choose to work for X company and accept $2 less because X company has much better medical benefits than Y company. What' the difference here? Another pilot may put a greater priority on flight benefits and be willing to accept a bit less $ to have a greater boarding priority. It's not their responsibility to justify their needs to you or anyone else.
Another may choose to go with an airline with an all jet fleet, or better yet, an all EMB 170 fleet because they feel it will help them with THEIR personal goals to fly heavy jets.

Guess what all you 'bro' sympathizers, yes it does make a difference. Cathay Pacific's application pre-screen askes for 'heavy jet' time and it wasn't until recently they began to accept 53,000 GTOW as a minimum. (RJ-200 GTOW)

If it is your concern that someone else may take over your job for FREE then I would highly suggest to quit whining about it and do something. When I say do something that means do something OTHER than ***** about someone else who is doing it. Here's what cha do.... improve on your skill and align yourself to be in a better position so that it can not be taken over. You said you were happy puddle jumping so, as long as your management continues to hire 500 hour pilots then your skilled profession will always be threatened by someone who will do the same job for less. Don't like it???.. then make a personal change and quit bickering about what someone else does.

If you are looking for "airline equality" then you were born in the wrong era. This is post-dereglation and yes the competition is fierce. In the mean time I will continue to just beat my monkey so that it can take over my job.

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Old 10-25-2011 | 04:20 AM
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Most if not all of the fractionals will give you hotel points and likely better layovers (excluding TEB.)

Alpha flying is hiring for sure, you will reach Hilton Diamond there by 6 months or so.

XO Jet is hiring as well and you will be top tier in whichever hotel chains they use.

Avantair is hiring.

Not sure about Citation Air or Flexjet or the others I may have forgotten.

Heard a rumor once that at NetJets you are started out as Hilton Diamond as part of a deal the company negotiated. Not entirely sure if this is true or not.

Hotel points are off my radar as far as anything I care about, but if you do than the fractionals are 100% where you want to be.
Old 10-25-2011 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Most if not all of the fractionals will give you hotel points and likely better layovers (excluding TEB.)

Alpha flying is hiring for sure, you will reach Hilton Diamond there by 6 months or so.

XO Jet is hiring as well and you will be top tier in whichever hotel chains they use.

Avantair is hiring.

Not sure about Citation Air or Flexjet or the others I may have forgotten.

Heard a rumor once that at NetJets you are started out as Hilton Diamond as part of a deal the company negotiated. Not entirely sure if this is true or not.

Hotel points are off my radar as far as anything I care about, but if you do than the fractionals are 100% where you want to be.
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Finally broke Diamond status last week. Took me 8 months!
Starting off at Diamond status? Time to renegotiate

Seriously though as to the OP's original question.
It just seems strange that a job decision would be based on something that is going to take months (if not years in some circumstances it sounds like) and that becomes more important than the day in and day out grind that the job entails. This isn't even a benefit that might come to serious money savings like health benefits.

No matter whether hotel points and travel benefits are desired as perks to the job, the OP's suggestion that pay doesn't matter has never boded well on this board and shouldn't on any professional board. A little SA on this particular aspect would have maybe kept this thread more on track and it is probably a worthy lesson learned on the internet vice in a crew room at a later stage.

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Old 10-25-2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by hc0fitted
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ????? HOTEL REWARD POINTS ???? That is what your going to base on what regional you would like to apply to ???? HOTEL REWARD POINTS???? Thats your main concern??? LMAO . Im at a lost of words.... lol Good Luck .....
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Can anybody tell me which regional has the best crew rooms?



Sounds like you are looking for a hobby, not a career. Please do us all a favor: either rethink your priorities, or buy a Mooney and be happy sucking off your gal's (or guy's) financial teat.
I dislike people like this. They think they are the be all end all of what is a regional pilot. The same type that criticize people who choose to not accept a "bro" class at SKW. Ever consider that someone may not be able to commute to Helena, MT bro? Ever consider that someone else's needs are different than others and the rest of the world, thank goodness, does not have to think the same way? Ever consider that someone is simply asking a questions while OTHERS HAVE TO YELL AND CAPITALIZE WORDS BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT NECESSARY TO YELL IN ORDER TO GET THEIR POINT ACROSS? Whoops.. I stooped again. I have to quit this.

Before passing judgment on anyone regarding their career intentions consider the fact that you have no idea who they are or what their life situation is. The original poster made it clear that his intentions may be slightly different from the 23yo CFI Maverick sportin his ray-bans. I know several pilots who spent 20 years in the military who are collecting pensions while their wives do very well in their career. They just want to fly. Hotel points might be a worthy requirement for an individual like this who that may I remind you that you don't know, is looking for a some flying fun and a free hotel room now and then so them and their spouse can travel more. There sure are a lot of Jesusus on here.

Oh, and next time your at your local supermarket head down the cereal aisle and grab that big yellow bag of 'save a mart' brand that says compare to (name brand) in real small print. Go head and pick it up and carry it on down to the big boy brand and line em up side by side. Slide them aviators on and smile because finally you compare to the 'real deal'. Your non-GoJettin 'bro' and all. Well, good thing for them rose colored bans because that big yellow bag tastes like brown hole and everybody knows it.

Additionally I have included instructions on just how to answer the original posters question. Real simple, no SOP required. Ready??

Hi Original poster. I work for save a mart brand and our company does/does not (only one answer here) allow pilots to collect hotel points. Maybe with enough replies similar to this brief example the original poster can efficiently get their question answered without mama telling him that he needs to pass the interview first and what his career intentions should be.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
the OP's suggestion that pay doesn't matter has never boded well on this board
That's because it is full of people who would rather make excuses instead of make changes. This place reminds me of what it would be like to stand in the welfare line. "Its everybody else's fault but my own" It's kinda like the fat guy who cites McD's as to the reason why he is fat. If you don't like your competition, if you don't like your contract, and in general if you don't like what's being served or how it's affecting you, get off yins behind and make a positive personal change.

Next thing ya know the fat guy is no longer fat because he quit blaming everyone else and started accepting personal responsibility for the way he chooses to live his life. Amazing how that works.
Old 10-25-2011 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Please do us all a favor: either rethink your priorities, or buy a Mooney and be happy sucking off your gal's (or guy's) financial teat.
hey how'd I get involved??
Old 10-25-2011 | 07:59 AM
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I collected points all through training, 57 eligible nights, and am platinum level at IHG, I just stayed at an IHG property last night, and my account reflects the stay. Be nice to the front desk, and be sure to ask about points when wearing civvies.

Cheers!
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