Completely Flase. They will tell exactly what unions will do for their pilots. (Nothing). Change a few letters around and UNION spells ONION. (Something that stinks)

You are right. Bottom line, it is the pilots call. And your opinion is your opinion. And if you were in the majority, (and you are not) you would be anti-union like 92.7% of America, and SKYW. And by the way "vote" is secret code for VETO.

Unions have their place, specifically, for abused workers. (China sweat shops, etc . . .) I do not believe SKYW pilots are abused workers. If they were, I do not believe SKYW would exist.

 

Ellen you haven't been in this businees very long have you?

Your entitled to your opinion and if you are a Skywest Pilot you will be entitled to a certification vote if that is what the Pilots decide.

Don't drink too much of that corporate Kool Aid. It can be tainted.
Cheers

 

Im starting to think "Ellen" is paid or otherwise backed by Skywest management to spread disinformation and help keep the union off the property during this current round of the union drive at Skywest...

 

Hey I think Ellen is great for the union drive, "she" has pushed me more towards a union than away. "her" arguments are shot down so easy.

Hey my acars blocked 120, and only gave 117 to opps. This happens most flights is this normal? Why does it do that?

 

Then you woke up.

 

I dont believe teamsters could help you...look at GL they have been without a contract for at least five years....I believe that at GoJet we will also be without a contract, other than what management has given us, for years.

Why not just not worry about the pay......get your time and get out. There are three times as many mainline pilots than regionals. Your time will come.

One more point.....I love doing what I do for sixty dollars an hour. Driving a truck could never match the excitement. I think people lose track of why we do this job to begin with. Its because we love to fly.

 

So this is why Skywest has stayed non-union so long. Their pilots play jumble. Awsome.

PS I like onion rings. They are tastey.
PPS I also like onions on my cheese steaks. They are also tastey.
PPPS, U to O is one letter, not a few.

 

If you have been reading thru this thread you may have sensed some bitterness by my previous 2 posts. (maybe not, but I am) So instead of me just being upset let me explain why and then you decide for yourself if you also would be bitter about unions. BTW, before I begin I realize that not all unions are the same, but if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk.......
Anyway, let me begin. Four years ago I was working for a large company, we were cookin along just like SkyWest, but we thought we deserved more money and some other things as well. What did we do? Accepted cards, sent them in, had a vote and bingo we had a union. Now we were all thrilled, me included, I'd never worked for a union but it sure sounded better than what we had, key word there is sounded if your taking notes. Oh and btw the compnay was dead set against the union which is probably not a surprise I just wanted to include that. Ok, so now we get union benefits, we go to sign up for our health care which is now from the union, not the company, which I didn't know about before I voted. The lady tells me that my benefits won't start for 3 months (I was now a new participant) ok,,, well I told my kids not to get hurt or I'd have to use cobra, ouch. So the lady tells me that my premiums will start coming out of my check immediately but my benefits don't start for 3 months. I said "when do I get my 900 dollars back (my share of 3 months of premiums, which was more than I was paying thru the company insurance) she said that I didn't get it back, I said what about when I retired or left the company. She said,,,, that I never get it back, this money goes to the union to help pay for the plan! But there has to be a good ending right? Actually no, we went into talks to increase our pay etc. I paid 30 dollars a month for 2 years without ANY gain in pay or qol. After 2 years the company closed our base (our base was responsible for the union push) and told us we could move to another base, the nearest of which was 600 miles away. I had been 5 minutes from the airport and didn't want to commute or move. So to summerize, we gained nothing and lost our base, 900 dollars for premiums, and 30 bucks a month for two years, before we lost everything. So back to post number two of this thread. "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT"! Now I realize that I had been naive about the whole union idea, but when I got around the "union" guys they made it sound so good. I mean it sounded great! I got so wrapped up in the whole "we deserve more" theme that it was like a drug floating in the air, I couldn't help myself. Looking back on it I was just being selfish, we were making just about the same as everyone else (some more, some less) but we were doing great and I felt that the reason we were doing so well as a company was because of all of us and that we deserved it! Anyway, call me an idiot and you'd be right. I just don't want that to happen to me again. Once bitten twice shy. Sorry for the rant, but I feel better. Thank you.

 

Ellen, havn't you kids gotten around to percentages in 6th grade yet?

You don't multiply a percentage times a duration to get a new(higher) percentage.

Or, as my wife just pointed out to me, when you go to a 50% off sale at a store, with a 50% off coupon you don't get stuff for free.

So are you high, stupid, or a liar?
(Anybody care to guess?)

Oh, by the way guys, don't forget to deduct your union dues from your income tax.

 

Growth at Mainline carriers has been non existant for several years. Growth at regionals has been exponential.

We need to wory about more than just pay because there may not be a mainliner job for everyone. If Brand X airline can fly thier customers on subcontactor Y airline, at a fraction of thier mainline cost, what does Brand X need to hire more pilots for? Undercutting each other to get PIC time is ultimately self defeating.


Don't think for even one second that management doesn't know this and use our love of flying against us every day. I can't even count how many times heard, or I've said, how bad every part of this job is, until you lock the cockpit door.