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Originally Posted by beeker
(Post 1099531)
Your going to bankruptcy court regardless of a new concessionary contract. Do you want to go to court with your current contract, where they will make cuts, or with a concessionary contract, where they will make cuts from the cuts you just took. Look back at United and Frontier, both were told concessions were need to keep from going into bankruptcy while bankruptcy was always the plan by management. In the PBS special the United bankruptcy lawyers said this and if I remember correctly frontier went into backrupcty the next month after the concessionary contract was passed.
Do you want a 25% paycut from what you have now or a 25% paycut from a 25% paycut? That's a tough one. |
Originally Posted by lolwut
(Post 1099596)
Pinnacle pilots already gave the company concessions for over 5 years. The company in that time threw away hundreds of millions of dollars in bad decisions, senior management pay, buying airlines, etc...
Pinnacle Airlines ? Crashing and Burning? - PNCL - Foolish Blogging Network "The 2010 management team may have done an irreparable number on the company. The five-person executive team collected $4.41 million in compensation in 2010, which was an amount proportional to 35% of the company’s net income for the year. A hearty reward, considering the stock returned 4% during the period." I'm for one, will not help float an inept management team...already have the resumes out. |
Make sure that you let your union leadership know your feelings by posting on the 9E, XJ, 9L combined internal and private employee message board.
www.airlinkpilots.com This is a great place too but some things are better said in private. |
Airline mgmt 101...any concessions management can get from its workforce will go directly into management's pockets as the result of a bonus for obtaining said concessions from workforce. Not used to pay creditors, save Ferris etc..
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Not a single f-in penny ! Let it burn !
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To pilots:
No concessions! When has any airline management asked for concessions to save the company and returned the favor when profitable again? To our MEC: No concessions! You are not management's friends, you are our representatives. Don't let them tell you that pilots are the cause of the problem and that only pilots can provide the solution. Delay realignment training, but don't touch the contract because we will never get any concession back. To Pinnacle management: No concessions! As long as this company continues to pay FORMER employees who helped put us in the situation, we shouldn't even be discussing pilot concessions. If you think labor costs are high now, just imagine what they will be after any concession. I, along with many others, will do everything possible to sink the ship. Other places are hiring and I wouldn't think twice about jumping ship and while I wait, I will make sure we are always late, the APU will be on the entire time the aircraft is on the ground, I will look for the strongest headwind, I will use NTOP for every takeoff, I will make sure every scratch and mark on each prop is documented before each flight, and I will take my sweet time to get to any deadhead. In short I will look for anyway to make sure the money you take from future pilot concessions will go right back into our operations budget, and not your bonuses. |
NO CONCESSIONS. I'll readily accept losing my job over bringing down this industry even more. I've lost my airline job in the past and I survived. It is absolutely unacceptable to work with crappier pay and rules than are out there already. Keep that in mind!
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Don't give an inch, even if it means running it into the ground. Who cares, its just a regional airline. All of you will be moving on soon anyway. The majors will be hiring before you know it.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 1099703)
To Pinnacle management:
No concessions! As long as this company continues to pay FORMER employees who helped put us in the situation, we shouldn't even be discussing pilot concessions. If you think labor costs are high now, just imagine what they will be after any concession. I, along with many others, will do everything possible to sink the ship. Other places are hiring and I wouldn't think twice about jumping ship and while I wait, I will make sure we are always late, the APU will be on the entire time the aircraft is on the ground, I will look for the strongest headwind, I will use NTOP for every takeoff, I will make sure every scratch and mark on each prop is documented before each flight, and I will take my sweet time to get to any deadhead. In short I will look for anyway to make sure the money you take from future pilot concessions will go right back into our operations budget, and not your bonuses. I think we should wait a while and see what information comes out and what actions the MEC wants to take first and if you decide to procede with said plan, don't post about it or even talk about it! |
Use MTOP not NTOP
Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 1099703)
To pilots:
No concessions! When has any airline management asked for concessions to save the company and returned the favor when profitable again? To our MEC: No concessions! You are not management's friends, you are our representatives. Don't let them tell you that pilots are the cause of the problem and that only pilots can provide the solution. Delay realignment training, but don't touch the contract because we will never get any concession back. To Pinnacle management: No concessions! As long as this company continues to pay FORMER employees who helped put us in the situation, we shouldn't even be discussing pilot concessions. If you think labor costs are high now, just imagine what they will be after any concession. I, along with many others, will do everything possible to sink the ship. Other places are hiring and I wouldn't think twice about jumping ship and while I wait, I will make sure we are always late, the APU will be on the entire time the aircraft is on the ground, I will look for the strongest headwind, I will use NTOP for every takeoff, I will make sure every scratch and mark on each prop is documented before each flight, and I will take my sweet time to get to any deadhead. In short I will look for anyway to make sure the money you take from future pilot concessions will go right back into our operations budget, and not your bonuses. |
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