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Avroman 12-10-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1099727)
Use MTOP not NTOP

Maybe he meant NTOP, then taxi back to the gate with a write up?
(not condoning, just saying) ;)

Luv2Rotate 12-10-2011 01:08 PM

You always know when it's X-mas time in this buisness. Furloughs, concessions, base closures and armageddon. Tis the season (Cheers) :cool:

Fly782 12-10-2011 01:11 PM

No Concessions.... Look what happened to AA!

AxialFlow 12-10-2011 01:32 PM

Well...it certainly looks like we're all on the same page, for once.

My prediction:

An overwhelming vote in favor of concessions.


This "union" and the pilot group don't have the balls...

gonyon 12-10-2011 01:47 PM

JAL CEO Cuts Pay - YouTube

a good CEO?

Deice Press 12-10-2011 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 1099758)

^^^ would be great to bring up during the next conference call. NO CONCESSIONS.

whtever 12-10-2011 03:17 PM

Absolutely NO concessions! I second the guy that said "full pay until the last day." Respectable.

On a side note, along with the entirely too expensive new uniforms, if we are getting those name tags like SkyWest, I'd like mine to read: I.M. Disgusted

gonyon 12-10-2011 03:38 PM

Warren Buffett's Corporate Governance and Succession Plan


executive compensation: capitalist junkies

MunkyButtr 12-10-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1099539)
Lots o' FUD going around...

Pilot group concessions won't save PNCL from declaring bankruptcy if that's what it takes to "remain competitive" - just ask any American Airlines pilot.

Only airline management could take 3 airlines that were all making money and turn the end sum into an unprofitable entity...

Training, training, training. The company wasn't allowed enough time to blend the operations before retraining 40% of the workforce. I'm not taking sides, but no company in any industry could handle it. The integration of pilots was either done too quickly or the Bloch fence debacle completely caught the company off guard (my pick). If the certs were merged and planes moved than there would be no need for initial retraining, 10 sims, or mass exodus between tickets. Look at the losses and look at the training costs, classes have stopped and they haven't even hired enough pilots yet. The company doesn't stand a chance. Granted moving downtown when they did was probably a mistake as well... did somebody say steak? Bankruptcy is real and its the easy way out, even a way for Daddy-D to shed 50's...

MunkyButtr 12-10-2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1099611)
Management didn't throw anything away...
Pinnacle Airlines ? Crashing and Burning? - PNCL - Foolish Blogging Network

"The 2010 management team may have done an irreparable number on the company. The five-person executive team collected $4.41 million in compensation in 2010, which was an amount proportional to 35% of the company’s net income for the year. A hearty reward, considering the stock returned 4% during the period."

I'm for one, will not help float an inept management team...already have the resumes out.

And the 3 mil we lost the quarter after Phil was dumped was exactly what he was paid for severance.


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