Of course you guys can keep your p.o.s super premium line bidding along with your iliw, sliw or whatever extra crap "line improvement" windows you need. You guys like being computer jockeys and wasting valuable time to "improve" your line and QOL, we like getting our schedule right the first time and taking less than 10 mins a month to bid. Have at it!

 

You need to get informed, or think critically.

For a junior person like yourself, you'd have a much better life if you had an ILIW after your PBS bid closed.

It's an additional chance to make a good schedule even better.

I'm not at XJT or ASA but I used to work at one of them and know plenty about the other. I'm telling you this as a neutral party who happened to read a post that screamed "clueless" so loud I had to enter the conversation.

 

Don't matter what thread, message board, topic, etc. Every damn thread turns into a PBS discussion.

 

Wow, you need to get educated! Our system allows ANY line holder the flexibility to improve their life, more days off, specific days off, higher line value (more money), the ability to maximize commutability, heck if you don't want to fly with someone you can either bid around or trade out of the trip. It's a great balance because our more senior guys get what they want right off the bat, and the middle/junior guys have an opportunity to better their lives.

When I was a junior line holder I would spend two hours in ILIW, and occasionally 10 minutes through SLIW with an average of 15 days off and 95 hours. How's PBS working out for your junior line holders? Oh that's right, you get what you get and that's it!

One of the many concessions that we won't accept. As I mentioned, we'll just continue operating as two lists until the asa side gets their house in order.

 

I'm junior and get exactly what I want. So you're wrong.

 

I doubt that. Unless you like working non-commutable, 15 hour, 4 days, over the weekend... I doubt it.

A bottom of the barrel line holder in PBS will have NO choice in what they get because they are bottom of the barrel. They get scraps and the only opportunity to change it is when someone drops a trip for a sick call.

In our line bidding system, a bottom of the barrel line holder will get the opportunity in the ILIW to swap his trips for all the trips that were dropped as a result of month to month conflicts, training, vacation, etc. Which ends up being A LOT of open time to choose from.

I am an early 2011 hire and with the ILIW I get what I want... this month it is 18 days off and nearly 90 hours.

 

What exactly is considered junior now? At 5+ years I still have to work most weekends, and get a most holidays off but have to make sacrifices.

I guess PBS gets you what you want if like to work weekends. And some holidays.

 

Are you serious? Do you think you're in the majority when you say you dont mind working holidays and weekends?

 

Not one of you XJT guys has ever bid with our system. So stop talking like you know what your talking about, because you don't. Just like we ASA guys have never bid with your system. Ours has its pros and cons, just like yours does. I don't pretend to know your system because I read about it, or my sister's best friend's mom told me about it, or that ours is better than yours or vice versa. I don't know your system and I don't care. I just want us to get a decent contract for everyone. When the MEC's come up with something that they want to put to vote, I will then make my decision on whats better. I don't see what good any of this is doing. Also, seeing how this management (now your management) runs this place the last four years I've been here, I can assure you that even if we have a line biding system, they will still find some way to screw you over or make your life suck. We are at a regional fellas. I don't care how I bid for my schedule as much as I care about strong language to protect us from getting screwed and being able to make some money.

 

Think you misunderstood my post.