Were you there? Have you been at any of our joint MEC meetings? Well, I have, and no one has walked out on anyone. Not too sure where this little rumor started. While there may be differences between the two on any number of issues or strategies, that's all they are. Differences. We're all adults and no one has walked out from anything.

Yeah, sorry, that's not too dramatic now is it? Pretty boring actually. Sorry to disappoint.

Well, I'll try to say it a different way now...

Whole new discussion. All I can suggest to you, and the same thing I tell my pilots - contact your status reps and your JNC folks. They are the avenue for contract suggestions.

Get rid of the emotional rhetoric and start thinking about strategic planning for our combined pilot group and realize nothing is going to be dropped in your lap by this "new" (for you) management team.

Keep your head in the sand regarding PBS all you want, but it was quite comical when your Scheduling Chair was in our offices before he went back and met with his own folks. He was quite impressed with the PBS product and even offered up suggestions that could be implemented. However, what a quick turnaround he made once he returned with rational and logical empirical data. No one wanted to listen.

So be it...ignorance can kill many things.

However, I caution you to talk to me about communication.

The reality is someone went public with false information. It caused a great deal of headache and false rumor starting on our side. I can guarantee you none of us will publish anything remotely close about the OTHER pilot group unless their own people have done it first.

Professional courtesy...it would have been nice.

So, hopefully - for the last time - that clears the drama of a MEC Chair saying something prematurely all up and you folks can move on.

PBS debate - go have that with your status reps, JNC, and scheduling folks.

Happy New Year!

 

I find it disappointing how many people in the ASA pilot group are saying that the XJT MEC has stormed out of meetings on many occasions. People that have no clue what they are talking about and have never been to a negotiating session. I never believe half the crap that comes out of our pilot group but I figured I would throw that out there. It's like we are just trying to pick a fight. Peeps need to seriously grow up.

These are also the same people that brag about flying "90 Seaters" and are dead set that ASA bought XJT. It's gonna be a long road. Sorry guys.

 

There are actually idiots out there that brag about flying a 90 seat RJ for 30 something dollars a hour ? lol

 

No, there is not, we don't fly 90 seaters. The previous post about this is incorrect and I have not seen that mentality at ASA.

 

Under ASA PBS you would have had the schedule you ended up with at the start without doing all the line improvement exercises. PBS also requires less reserves due to scheduling more efficiently, so you would have more line-holders than 6 under you.

A bottom of the barrel PBS line-holder would be on RESERVE under the XJT line bidding system....

Only aircraft I know that possibly could be transferred are the 6 former Delta/ASA CR2s. How you did you come up with 129?

90 seat RJ but only limited to 76 seats. Also, majority of FOs on the 700/900 are senior thus making in the mid 40s an hour. Pay is still nothing to brag about but the lifestyle(stage lengths, legs to credit ratio, overnights, free business class meal most of time) on the 700/900 is far superior to ASA's 200 flying. A little more money for less work.

 

Well, I hope that when you encounter some of these folks that you kindly remind them that no one walked out of anything.

Look - it's nothing more than line pilot posturing and it's not necessary and only breeds discontent and unhappiness - all wrapped up in lies.

Now, time to fall back asleep.

 

Mostly what I meant is how stupid they sound when they say "we get to fly the 90 seater today". My point being, it's not a 90 seater. I think these same people feel as if more seats is compensation enough. Never mind the money. Just another notch to lower the bar.

 

Bottom line is that not everyone gets everything they want in either system. But in XJT's line bidding system, thee most junior person has the opportunity to improve their schedule by trading for day trips, getting an extra day off, moving a trip, getting a better overnight, increasing commutability, getting more efficient trips, getting more pay, etc from the trips that are dropped by the senior line holders because of conflicts due to transition, vacation, training, FAR and contractual violations, etc.

As for less reserves, that is also true of captains and therefore less need for captains and therefore longer time to upgrade. But yeah, you get to be an FO lineholder longer as the trade off.

Lastly, I think he was talking about the aircraft protection clause in the T&PA. Although I'd have to go back and look how that interacts with current CPA aircraft essentially being protected.

 

If you go to our 'union' website. Under the 'Merger Ahead', is the TPA. Around page 46-49 is listed what aircraft can be transferred to another Skywest entity with only the condition of interviewing our pilots. Nice of them to slip that nugget in there at the end.

Transfers to other Skywest entity:
EMB-135... 7 aircraft
CRJ-200... 32 aircraft
EMB-145LR.... 42 aircraft
EMB-145XP.... 31 aircraft
CRJ-700... 12 aircraft
CRJ-900... 3 aircraft

I don't know about you, but I feel misrepresented. Perhaps arguing over 'PBS or line-bidding' will take your mind off this.

 

What is the upgrade over there? I'll bet it's shorter than the ASA side. If I remember correctly I believe it's 7 years now plus we are displacing 10 more captains in a few months. Probably make it around 8 years. Then your on reserve until about 11-12 years depending on aircraft. What's it look like over there?