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johnso29 01-05-2012 06:06 AM

So do we have any official info on furloughs off the CRJ side? Or official info of furloughs not occurring?

surreal1221 01-05-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1112290)
So do we have any official info on furloughs off the CRJ side? Or official info of furloughs not occurring?

For now, referencing CT's memo (all cryptic and all) the can has essentially been kicked down the road.

I would caution anyone from getting too happy about that. For now though, no expected furloughs.

Nevets 01-05-2012 09:16 AM


If you go to our 'union' website. Under the 'Merger Ahead', is the TPA. Around page 46-49 is listed what aircraft can be transferred to another Skywest entity with only the condition of interviewing our pilots. Nice of them to slip that nugget in there at the end.

Transfers to other Skywest entity:
EMB-135... 7 aircraft
CRJ-200... 32 aircraft
EMB-145LR.... 42 aircraft
EMB-145XP.... 31 aircraft
CRJ-700... 12 aircraft
CRJ-900... 3 aircraft

I don't know about you, but I feel misrepresented. Perhaps arguing over 'PBS or line-bidding' will take your mind off this.
Yeah but read read paragraph 5 of the scope LOA which talks about protecting ASA CPA aircraft.

Anyways, I believe that this aircraft protection clause comes from the ASA contract and they just added the same percentage of protected aircraft for the XJT fleet.

Nevets 01-05-2012 09:21 AM



Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1112178)

As for less reserves, that is also true of captains and therefore less need for captains and therefore longer time to upgrade. But yeah, you get to be an FO lineholder longer as the trade off.

What is the upgrade over there? I'll bet it's shorter than the ASA side. If I remember correctly I believe it's 7 years now plus we are displacing 10 more captains in a few months. Probably make it around 8 years. Then your on reserve until about 11-12 years depending on aircraft. What's it look like over there?
The most junior FO awarded captain in our last bid on 12/22/11 was hired 6/19/06. The most junior captain who does not have to be on reserve was hired 7/06/05. I also believe they will continue to upgrade.

afterburn81 01-05-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1112405)
The most junior FO awarded captain in our last bid on 12/22/11 was hired 6/19/06. The most junior captain who does not have to be on reserve was hired 7/06/05. I also believe they will continue to upgrade.

I just keep going backwards every year. I was thinking of quitting and starting over. Since my yearly pay and QOL was much better 1 year after I was hired compared to now. :rolleyes:

JetBlast77 01-05-2012 06:44 PM

Per the Union today from the XJT side:

700 new hires in 2012

Approx. 350 Upgrades

Additional flying / aircraft to be announced in the coming weeks.

This was not an official memo, but someone we talked to today while on our trip.

I'm pretty sure things are moving along a little bit faster on the XJT side, not sure though :rolleyes:

FSUpilot 01-06-2012 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1112708)
Per the Union today from the XJT side:

700 new hires in 2012

Approx. 350 Upgrades

Additional flying / aircraft to be announced in the coming weeks.

This was not an official memo, but someone we talked to today while on our trip.

I'm pretty sure things are moving along a little bit faster on the XJT side, not sure though :rolleyes:

just wondering... how in the world can we get 700 pilots through in a year? Unless they are thinking of other training sites. I was assuming hiring would continue throughout the year with the announcement of hiring more check pilots. Didnt think it would be 700 more new hires though. Damn!

3stripes 01-06-2012 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 1112869)
just wondering... how in the world can we get 700 pilots through in a year? Unless they are thinking of other training sites. I was assuming hiring would continue throughout the year with the announcement of hiring more check pilots. Didnt think it would be 700 more new hires though. Damn!

Apparently we're not only going to be using the training center and Hobby, but we'll also be using sims in Dallas.

FSUpilot 01-06-2012 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by 3stripes (Post 1112903)
Apparently we're not only going to be using the training center and Hobby, but we'll also be using sims in Dallas.

hmm wow. well I wonder if there will be something official. Why on earth would we hire this many? tons of reserves now it seems. Something must be afoot with the recent job postings for check airman and trainers.

Im not gonna get too excited though.. eagle was gonna hire 700 this year and now look what happened.

Banshee365 01-06-2012 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1112708)
Per the Union today from the XJT side:

700 new hires in 2012

Approx. 350 Upgrades

Additional flying / aircraft to be announced in the coming weeks.

This was not an official memo, but someone we talked to today while on our trip.

I'm pretty sure things are moving along a little bit faster on the XJT side, not sure though :rolleyes:

Get ready for the SkyWest whipsaw!


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