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PurdueFlyer 01-06-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 1112869)
just wondering... how in the world can we get 700 pilots through in a year? Unless they are thinking of other training sites. I was assuming hiring would continue throughout the year with the announcement of hiring more check pilots. Didnt think it would be 700 more new hires though. Damn!

Looks like XJet is getting planes from Eagle.......

xjtguy 01-06-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 1112869)
just wondering... how in the world can we get 700 pilots through in a year? Unless they are thinking of other training sites. I was assuming hiring would continue throughout the year with the announcement of hiring more check pilots. Didnt think it would be 700 more new hires though. Damn!

"that was then, this is now..........."

But in the 2004-2006 time frame, with access to multiple training facilities as well as a full compliment of instructors, it was 64 new hires a month.

The hang up will probably be for instructors, hence the opening recently.

JetBlast77 01-06-2012 09:55 AM

Clarified today, they are saying 700 new hires by June, training to take place at several other facilities across the country.......

Nevets 01-06-2012 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by surreal1221
Keep your head in the sand regarding PBS all you want, but it was quite comical when your Scheduling Chair was in our offices before he went back and met with his own folks. He was quite impressed with the PBS product and even offered up suggestions that could be implemented. However, what a quick turnaround he made once he returned with rational and logical empirical data. No one wanted to listen.

So be it...ignorance can kill many things.

I'm trying to understand your point here but I'm not getting it. Can you try again?


Originally Posted by Bashee365

Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1112708)
Per the Union today from the XJT side:

700 new hires in 2012

Approx. 350 Upgrades

Additional flying / aircraft to be announced in the coming weeks.

This was not an official memo, but someone we talked to today while on our trip.

I'm pretty sure things are moving along a little bit faster on the XJT side, not sure though :rolleyes:

Get ready for the SkyWest whipsaw!

What exactly do you mean?


Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer

Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 1112869)
just wondering... how in the world can we get 700 pilots through in a year? Unless they are thinking of other training sites. I was assuming hiring would continue throughout the year with the announcement of hiring more check pilots. Didnt think it would be 700 more new hires though. Damn!

Looks like XJet is getting planes from Eagle.......

Where did you hear this? Which planes?

Ted Striker 01-06-2012 12:46 PM

per the union ? when did they send something out?

gtechpilot 01-06-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 1113122)
per the union ? when did they send something out?

I had a jumpseating LEC chairman tell me this summer that ASA would be hiring throughout the year....From the OP, I think this is similar.

goaround2000 01-07-2012 07:27 AM

I love how the asa guys refuse to admit that we have the better contract and that we should be using it as the base line for negotiation. Go ahead, continue defending that embarrassment of a contract, we'll just keep ours as is for the time being.

I was there when the asa mec walked out. No matter, 2850 votes to your 1700 will make everything clear. And so we're all on the same page, any TA that degrades our quality of life including PBS will get shut down! The financial health of the company is the responsibility of management, not the pilots.

JetBlast77 01-07-2012 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1113516)
I love how the asa guys refuse to admit that we have the better contract and that we should be using it as the base line for negotiation. Go ahead, continue defending that embarrassment of a contract, we'll just keep ours as is for the time being.

I was there when the asa mec walked out. No matter, 2850 votes to your 1700 will make everything clear. And so we're all on the same page, any TA that degrades our quality of life including PBS will get shut down! The financial health of the company is the responsibility of management, not the pilots.

That's exactly the opinion of pretty much everyone I have flown with since this merger began....its comical to think the ASA MEC thinks they have any control over the future contract. All we need is a little more than half of our guys to vote no an see ya later! We will not vote yes on anything less than an improvement over what we have. Period.

somertime32 01-07-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1113516)
I love how the asa guys refuse to admit that we have the better contract and that we should be using it as the base line for negotiation. Go ahead, continue defending that embarrassment of a contract, we'll just keep ours as is for the time being.

I was there when the asa mec walked out. No matter, 2850 votes to your 1700 will make everything clear. And so we're all on the same page, any TA that degrades our quality of life including PBS will get shut down! The financial health of the company is the responsibility of management, not the pilots.

I dont see why people wont admit it, it is better. The ERJ contract should be the base we build from. A lot of people around my seniority believe that especially when it comes to reserve rules.

unit monster 01-07-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1113516)
I love how the asa guys refuse to admit that we have the better contract and that we should be using it as the base line for negotiation. Go ahead, continue defending that embarrassment of a contract, we'll just keep ours as is for the time being.

I was there when the asa mec walked out. No matter, 2850 votes to your 1700 will make everything clear. And so we're all on the same page, any TA that degrades our quality of life including PBS will get shut down! The financial health of the company is the responsibility of management, not the pilots.

I'm with you, but what brought this post on? Where did the MEC walk out of?

Although saying we have "an embarrassment of a contract" might be a bit extreme...


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