Pinnacle Concession Update
03-05-2012 | 07:28 PM
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King Air/1900 is EFIS 84 Saab 340 and I think the EMB 120 is the EFIS 86 I believe. Highly doubt there will be no more support for the EFIS 86. If they do decide to drop the support someone else will pick up the slack in the private market and make a profit on it. The only thing that really fails on these are the CRT tubes and the associated power supplies for them. CRT may become harder to come by but a retrofit will hardly cost 2 million an airplane. Take a look at Sandel's retrofits and you will see that it will hardly cost a quarter of that much.
03-05-2012 | 07:45 PM
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Typically when a manufacturer "discontinues" support you translate that into "paid" support... in other words, no free tech work. When Hawker Beech discontinued supporting the Diamond 1A... just meant you had to pay for stuff that was free before. So, you may have heard correctly and Collins may charge for support. Just their way of saying 86 is a dinosaur.
03-05-2012 | 09:06 PM
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So I can conclude that most of you feel that there is a good chance that 9E won't have any aircraft based in ATL in the future?
I'm wondering because we are seriously considering moving there soon.
I'm wondering because we are seriously considering moving there soon.
03-05-2012 | 09:47 PM
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Dont base your plans on what Forum posters think might happen. Just my 2 cents. Also not saying that you are only going off of what is said here.
03-06-2012 | 12:35 AM
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But are the EFIS tubes in the 1900s, King Airs, and 737s the same model number of what's in the Saab? Not sure if it adds up either...not sure why Collins wouldn't want to still support a product that could potentially make them $$$ ? But then again, maybe it doesn't make financial "cents" for them to support it? Just spit balling...
King Air/1900 is EFIS 84 Saab 340 and I think the EMB 120 is the EFIS 86 I believe. Highly doubt there will be no more support for the EFIS 86. If they do decide to drop the support someone else will pick up the slack in the private market and make a profit on it. The only thing that really fails on these are the CRT tubes and the associated power supplies for them. CRT may become harder to come by but a retrofit will hardly cost 2 million an airplane. Take a look at Sandel's retrofits and you will see that it will hardly cost a quarter of that much.
(per Wikipedia) There are some 530 Saabs and Brasillias total. Assuming an EFIS lifespan of, say, five years, and two per plane, that means about 210 replaced each year. Is that enough to sustain support and manufacturing? Only Collins would know, but it does seem to be a pretty small number to me.
In the end, I'll believe they are gone when I get displaced.
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