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03-03-2012 | 10:48 AM
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If you think a job at GoJet is winning the lottery, stop what you are doing. Do not make any life altering decisions until you get some education. Your SA on the industry seems to be lacking and before you make major career decisions, you need to get your SA to match more closely to reality.
And now that GoJet was mentioned, this thread’s life is limited. Just a reminder, if we say anything negative about GoJet, anything about how it was created, or even posts “in before the lock”, we get banned. Wait, is acknowledging the fact that mentioning GoJet will likely end in the thread being locked the same as saying “in before the lock”? I hope not!
And now that GoJet was mentioned, this thread’s life is limited. Just a reminder, if we say anything negative about GoJet, anything about how it was created, or even posts “in before the lock”, we get banned. Wait, is acknowledging the fact that mentioning GoJet will likely end in the thread being locked the same as saying “in before the lock”? I hope not!
03-03-2012 | 10:56 AM
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You got me thinking though. That certain someone also said "In before the lock" herself. We should bring that up in our impending trial.
03-03-2012 | 11:02 AM
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ENBN,
Hopefully this will help you see the time frame you are looking at. I've worked at 3 121 carriers, and this is my experience. (I'm sure others can chime in as well for specific airlines)
-It may take time to get an interview. Airlines can take months to get back to you once you submit an application. The quickest I have ever heard back from a place that I applied to was just over 2 weeks. On the other hand American Eagle called me about a year and a half after I submitted a an application.
-Scheduling an interview may take time. Some airlines only interview certain days of the week. The shortest I had was about a week. The longest (more by my choice) was about a month.
-Not all places let you know if you are hired the day of your interview. Both of my regional jobs got back to me in 2 days. The one legacy carrier told me the day of (pending a background check). I have had friends that have waited up to two weeks.
-Your background check (or medical if required) will take time. Even if you do manage to get in class quickly, the background check has to be done. At my current job (legacy carrier) I waited 3 weeks to be cleared for a medical test. If you are hired, it will take time either way for you to actually be on property.
-Some airlines hire into "pools." You will hear people talking about swimming in the pool. It just means, that they have been offered employment, but they haven't been given a class date yet. Airlines can have classes filled for months out.
-Your ground school or home based training can run about a month.
-You will have training breaks between different phases. My first RJ gig gave me a 2 month break between ground school and simulators. Many regionals don't have their own simulators and often use places such as Flight Safety. They don't always have the capacity, or hours needed. This leads to waits.
-Your IOE / OE (initial operating experience) can take a while also. Not only do they have you schedule you flights, but they also have to match you up with an instructor's schedule.
Once you do finish OE, most place I have been put you on the line ASAP. The bad part about this is that since you are now the bottom man (or near the bottom) you won't get much say in your schedule.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
Hopefully this will help you see the time frame you are looking at. I've worked at 3 121 carriers, and this is my experience. (I'm sure others can chime in as well for specific airlines)
-It may take time to get an interview. Airlines can take months to get back to you once you submit an application. The quickest I have ever heard back from a place that I applied to was just over 2 weeks. On the other hand American Eagle called me about a year and a half after I submitted a an application.
-Scheduling an interview may take time. Some airlines only interview certain days of the week. The shortest I had was about a week. The longest (more by my choice) was about a month.
-Not all places let you know if you are hired the day of your interview. Both of my regional jobs got back to me in 2 days. The one legacy carrier told me the day of (pending a background check). I have had friends that have waited up to two weeks.
-Your background check (or medical if required) will take time. Even if you do manage to get in class quickly, the background check has to be done. At my current job (legacy carrier) I waited 3 weeks to be cleared for a medical test. If you are hired, it will take time either way for you to actually be on property.
-Some airlines hire into "pools." You will hear people talking about swimming in the pool. It just means, that they have been offered employment, but they haven't been given a class date yet. Airlines can have classes filled for months out.
-Your ground school or home based training can run about a month.
-You will have training breaks between different phases. My first RJ gig gave me a 2 month break between ground school and simulators. Many regionals don't have their own simulators and often use places such as Flight Safety. They don't always have the capacity, or hours needed. This leads to waits.
-Your IOE / OE (initial operating experience) can take a while also. Not only do they have you schedule you flights, but they also have to match you up with an instructor's schedule.
Once you do finish OE, most place I have been put you on the line ASAP. The bad part about this is that since you are now the bottom man (or near the bottom) you won't get much say in your schedule.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
03-03-2012 | 11:04 AM
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Did I say that getting a job at GoJet is like winning the lottery?
I just want a job! Be it GoJet, AirWis, Expressjet, PSA etc. Do my time there and while finishing a BA and move on to something bigger and better. The sooner I get in the sooner I hopefully can get out.
Best case for me btw is not GoJet, but Republic EMB out of PHL.
I just want a job! Be it GoJet, AirWis, Expressjet, PSA etc. Do my time there and while finishing a BA and move on to something bigger and better. The sooner I get in the sooner I hopefully can get out.
Best case for me btw is not GoJet, but Republic EMB out of PHL.
03-03-2012 | 11:09 AM
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ENBN,
Hopefully this will help you see the time frame you are looking at. I've worked at 3 121 carriers, and this is my experience. (I'm sure others can chime in as well for specific airlines)
-It may take time to get an interview. Airlines can take months to get back to you once you submit an application. The quickest I have ever heard back from a place that I applied to was just over 2 weeks. On the other hand American Eagle called me about a year and a half after I submitted a an application.
-Scheduling an interview may take time. Some airlines only interview certain days of the week. The shortest I had was about a week. The longest (more by my choice) was about a month.
-Not all places let you know if you are hired the day of your interview. Both of my regional jobs got back to me in 2 days. The one legacy carrier told me the day of (pending a background check). I have had friends that have waited up to two weeks.
-Your background check (or medical if required) will take time. Even if you do manage to get in class quickly, the background check has to be done. At my current job (legacy carrier) I waited 3 weeks to be cleared for a medical test. If you are hired, it will take time either way for you to actually be on property.
-Some airlines hire into "pools." You will hear people talking about swimming in the pool. It just means, that they have been offered employment, but they haven't been given a class date yet. Airlines can have classes filled for months out.
-Your ground school or home based training can run about a month.
-You will have training breaks between different phases. My first RJ gig gave me a 2 month break between ground school and simulators. Many regionals don't have their own simulators and often use places such as Flight Safety. They don't always have the capacity, or hours needed. This leads to waits.
-Your IOE / OE (initial operating experience) can take a while also. Not only do they have you schedule you flights, but they also have to match you up with an instructor's schedule.
Once you do finish OE, most place I have been put you on the line ASAP. The bad part about this is that since you are now the bottom man (or near the bottom) you won't get much say in your schedule.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
Hopefully this will help you see the time frame you are looking at. I've worked at 3 121 carriers, and this is my experience. (I'm sure others can chime in as well for specific airlines)
-It may take time to get an interview. Airlines can take months to get back to you once you submit an application. The quickest I have ever heard back from a place that I applied to was just over 2 weeks. On the other hand American Eagle called me about a year and a half after I submitted a an application.
-Scheduling an interview may take time. Some airlines only interview certain days of the week. The shortest I had was about a week. The longest (more by my choice) was about a month.
-Not all places let you know if you are hired the day of your interview. Both of my regional jobs got back to me in 2 days. The one legacy carrier told me the day of (pending a background check). I have had friends that have waited up to two weeks.
-Your background check (or medical if required) will take time. Even if you do manage to get in class quickly, the background check has to be done. At my current job (legacy carrier) I waited 3 weeks to be cleared for a medical test. If you are hired, it will take time either way for you to actually be on property.
-Some airlines hire into "pools." You will hear people talking about swimming in the pool. It just means, that they have been offered employment, but they haven't been given a class date yet. Airlines can have classes filled for months out.
-Your ground school or home based training can run about a month.
-You will have training breaks between different phases. My first RJ gig gave me a 2 month break between ground school and simulators. Many regionals don't have their own simulators and often use places such as Flight Safety. They don't always have the capacity, or hours needed. This leads to waits.
-Your IOE / OE (initial operating experience) can take a while also. Not only do they have you schedule you flights, but they also have to match you up with an instructor's schedule.
Once you do finish OE, most place I have been put you on the line ASAP. The bad part about this is that since you are now the bottom man (or near the bottom) you won't get much say in your schedule.
I hope this helps. Good luck.
03-03-2012 | 12:30 PM
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03-03-2012 | 01:22 PM
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If you are desperate then you are setting yourself up to absolutely hate where you end up. What is your long term plan? Do you want to move on to a major? Do you want to get your bachelors while your at a regional? A one week vacation is worth the delay in your career?
This isn't a job at starbucks that you can walk away from scott free because you found out that your manager is a dick. This is a career and it will be brought up in every interview you have for the rest of your life. Without a degree you could be stuck there a lot longer then you previously thought. Take your time, do your research, and be honest with yourself what you want out of this career. If you do your research and still decide to go to a place that prey's on desperate people then you won't have any excuses when they eventually throw you under the bus.
This isn't a job at starbucks that you can walk away from scott free because you found out that your manager is a dick. This is a career and it will be brought up in every interview you have for the rest of your life. Without a degree you could be stuck there a lot longer then you previously thought. Take your time, do your research, and be honest with yourself what you want out of this career. If you do your research and still decide to go to a place that prey's on desperate people then you won't have any excuses when they eventually throw you under the bus.
03-03-2012 | 01:27 PM
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If you are desperate then you are setting yourself up to absolutely hate where you end up. What is your long term plan? Do you want to move on to a major? Do you want to get your bachelors while your at a regional? A one week vacation is worth the delay in your career?
This isn't a job at starbucks that you can walk away from scott free because you found out that your manager is a dick. This is a career and it will be brought up in every interview you have for the rest of your life. Without a degree you could be stuck there a lot longer then you previously thought. Take your time, do your research, and be honest with yourself what you want out of this career. If you do your research and still decide to go to a place that prey's on desperate people then you won't have any excuses when they eventually throw you under the bus.
This isn't a job at starbucks that you can walk away from scott free because you found out that your manager is a dick. This is a career and it will be brought up in every interview you have for the rest of your life. Without a degree you could be stuck there a lot longer then you previously thought. Take your time, do your research, and be honest with yourself what you want out of this career. If you do your research and still decide to go to a place that prey's on desperate people then you won't have any excuses when they eventually throw you under the bus.
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