You have a lot to learn, young man (or lady... Didn't catch your gender). While I appreciate your enthusiasm for your job, please recognize that your inexperience makes your feelings on your career subject to a MASSIVE change in the coming years. In the meantime, I trust you have stopped picking up open time with members of your pilot group on furlough. Your satisfaction with the miserable pay and working conditions at the airlines (regionals AND majors) undermines the hard work of those pilots that are trying hard to restore some stability to the profession.

17 years at a major, and I'm getting 12 days off a month.

Didn't you just describe yourself???

So...getting back to OP's topic...any updates from the March 19th NMB metteing...if it ever even happened?

Nothing yet. NMB and union meeting today. RAH not in this meeting

Uh........where did you hear that, if they're not there what's the whole flippin' point of the meeting :confused: If it is true you've got a whole pilot group that is going to be PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSED!!!!!

RAH pilots are being incredibly selfish. Not only are they passing up free pay raise, they are passing up the opportunity to raise the bar for first year FO pay for the rest of the industry!

Mark my word, their new contract will not have first year FO pay at $30/hr. Way to keep the bar low for entry level.

wow........

Is your name wayne by chance? I question your motives at this point. If you cant see the very clear and logical argument against this raise, you're either a management mole or just not very intelligent. As for the company not being part of the meeting today, its set up that way. The company was scheduled to be there the 20th through the 22nd. Today was always scheduled to just be the union and mediator. No details of this weeks negotiations have been released yet.

I'll say again. The point is, do yourself and us a favor and DON"T come here right now. It does suck as bad as they say. Wait for the new contract. Don't fall for the "so called" raise that may or may not be required to be returned if the union and pilots have their way. We don't want a sham raise without a real contract and a legal raise that includes many things including "soft money" and work rules! Help us as pilots help all pilots. Help by staying away for a while. After a contract you will be welcomed aboard with open arms!

RAH pilots have no say for or against whether the pay raise will be implemented because it is a contract issue. And without it being in an LOA, it violates the contract.

First year pay is typically low at all carriers. The pay scale is flat in that it hardly increases throughout its longevity. The pay increase was proposed as a way to entice applicants and to minimize FO attrition. However, it has been way too long of a negotiations, 5 years, for management to start playing nice.

Applicants should look at the whole picture and not just first year pay.