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Old 03-24-2012, 11:59 AM
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Another example of top-down leadership at it's very worst...Do as I say, and not as I do. Not only that it completely underminds the ability of middle managers to have any credibility with their subordinates. People don't want to hear, "we are working on it", "we need to improve our metrics", "we had a pretty good week, our controllable delays were...blah blah", that kind of thing just isn't resonating...As pilots we are under the immense pressures of dealing with screwed up pay, middle-managers who are either resume building for the next job, and have no empowerment. Sending patronizing emails IS NOT LEADERSHIP....Basically just tired of the BS...WE GET IT...Operate just like you always have, as professionals...GREAT...Now, management show us LEADERSHIP and not asinine memos and e-mails that we are working in improving our processes...
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:49 AM
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Stanky Menke strikes again!
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:36 AM
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Facing bankruptcy, Pinnacle executives get big pay raise - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee

No mention how they asked the employees for concessions. Great one sided reporting.
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:23 PM
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When is the seniority list going to be updated? There has a fair amount of turnover, and I believe a few newhires since the January list was published.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:11 PM
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When is the seniority list going to be updated? There has a fair amount of turnover, and I believe a few newhires since the January list was published.
Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer View Post
Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.
Thanks! I tried to find it in the contract, but couldn't.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:59 PM
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All I have to say is cheers! I am second generation pilot, thus I need two tubes of Vaseline and the hard stuff to make it "okay". How "these guys" get away with this sh** kills me. Hopefully with the recent legislation and supposed pilot shortage coming we can hand a little back..."ride together die together...pilots for life"...
Here here brother. I left the industry about a year and a half ago because of all of the crazy issues with the industry and in particular pinnacle corp buying out mesaba. I think it is shameful how menke and jingles get pay raises while there are pilots out there on food stamps and living in sh*t pile places. I moved to LE and well while no place is perfect, let me tell how our chief treats us(equals to CEO). He got all of us challenge coins with our badge and patch to show us that he cares about our morale. He also goes to bat for us to get better pay and equipment. So when the chief or my direct supervisor ask me to come in on a day off or to go above and beyond my normal duties...i have no problem with it because they are there not only to provide me a job but to make sure im successful and able to support myself in a manner where when I come to work I am treated with respect and can feel safe in my position. The CEO of these companies need to take a cue and start doing the right things like treating employees right and making concessions of there own to show support and unity with all employees. Talent doesnt mean squat when the ship is sinking and shows no signs of plugging the hole. Stay strong brothers and sisters..there is a light at the end of the tunnel and if the tunnel leads you to another career, embrace it and remember the good times.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:09 PM
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Contractually they have 30 days from July 1st for the next update.
or if another Vacancy, or Furlough. I have a feeling they don't want to release one unless they have to. Getting short again on pilots and don't want us to get any leverage (even if there are no negotiations)
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:21 PM
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From the article...

"These guys are working very hard, and again, the company is on the brink of something very serious and to stay with the company in times like these really takes commitment," said Lee Harris.

Disgusting. Plain and simple.
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From the article...

"These guys are working very hard, and again, the company is on the brink of something very serious and to stay with the company in times like these really takes commitment," said Lee Harris.

Disgusting. Plain and simple.

Exactly, maybe we should all jump ship. After all, chit rolls down hill and i am lucky if I get paid correctly let alone a raise.
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