This flight attendant is ****ed.

Yeah she is. But on the pilot side, no out of seniorirty furloughs!

He's spending way too much time responding to her complaint. Someone needs to teach him how to effectively ignore FA complaints. Wa wa wa wa wa wa wa

He should've asked for a cup of coffee ;)

I agree, they are done. No one is going to get them. We all know this is going to suck but maybe this is the start of the end of the regionals - that would be a good thing.

"it bothers the h@ll out of me! Luckily, my pay raise has given me plenty of money to relieve my uneasiness."

All i"m hearing is : wa wa wa wa wa wa Flight attendants wa wa wa wa wa wa wa flight attendants wa wa wa wa wa wa

Has anyone else thought of if Menke sold off his stock options last Friday? I looked for a filing but didn't see one...

somebody ask him when chuck colgan is going to buy this dump back

Agreed, but where are all you regional guys going to go? Not nearly enough seats at the majors since they have to reserve a majority for the military pilots.

since when are new hire slots reserved for anyone?

He won't answer the question about pay again, what did he say the first time?

Let me see if I can sum up the call...

SM: It isn't my fault. It happened before I got here. The employees wouldn't take cuts, and I deserve the extra pay.

If you read into what he said, basically he threatened to quit, much like the CFO did, rather than go through another BK. The BOD made him an offer he couldn't resist.

He cried and talked about the struggle of taking his family through bankrupcty, the irony was thick.

So how many pilots do we currently have flying q400's and saabs. there are 200 flying the 900's in atl. I am trying to figure out the exact amount of furloughs.

Does anyone else give a sh*t about the FAs and their printed contracts?

I was going to say the same thing. Privately held company = we have no idea how stable this place is.

I don't know if this is very accurate as it probably doesn't include those already in the training pipeline but I went through and counted up the list from the bids for all bases on colgan for April, and got 527 active pilots.

About as much as the general public gives a sh*t about your pilot contract.

First off, sorry guys/gals. How many Q's do you have?

The military has historically hired a majority of their pilots from the military, so it's illogical to think that all you regional guys are going to populate the major ranks when there are still military pilots looking to get out and go to the majors.

Why wouldn't you? They are your colleagues, and unionized workers, too. What's your issue with them? They have every right to be mad!

There are bigger and better things to talk about other than a FA printed contract.

Did he just say that Republic and Southwest were looking at buying Pinnacle? ***? Is my hearing that bad?

Like how your crappy regional is less crappy than someone else's?

Yes, and you will go ahead of all the airtran pilots. Plus PCL will provide free 737 types as a severance package.

I don't even wanna know what you're thinking but they're people too who are getting affected.

Seriously? Dude, give it a break! You come on here throwing around these incendiary remarks trying to start some sh!t during a time when there are going to be a LOT of people out on the street, myself included. What in god's name is wrong with you? Do you hate yourself that bad that you have to try to make everyone else as miserable as you? GO AWAY FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY!

I believe he was talking about frontier, when he was working there.

He was talking about the Frontier bankruptcy when Southwest and Republic came in to make competing bids to the management teams plan. Was making the point that the creditors committee has a lot of clout and can do what it wants to get the most return on what they are owed. In other words, we'll do what we can and put a good plan together, but if an outside entity comes up with a better plan in the creditors eyes then everyone is screwed.....

That's funny. All the guys in my NWA class in 2008 were civilian. Delta hired at least 50% civilian in the last round in 2010, most were regional guys.

Ok, Im having to listen to 2 different things right now, and heard bits and pieces.

As a former 9E'er I wish you guys and girls the best of luck. It's a shame how things have turned out so quickly.

Granted some of the FAs are getting a little shrill, but the Colgan FA's have every right to be angry. To be told Colgan is shutting down and the only option for staying is to start at Pinnacle as a preferential new hire is a slap in the face. Seniority issues aside, the company could still give them their longevity for non rev and pay purposes...

Once again, you're wrong.

That is one thing that is wrong with this company... There is no mutual respect between employee groups. If it weren't for the flight attendants we wouldn't be flying. Lack of mutual respect, lack of a shared goal and especially a lack of shared knowledge not only between management and the front line employees but all of the employee groups including dispatch, scheduling, all the way to communications with a gate agent is why we are in this mess. No one works together anymore. All this Menke says is that he is abiding by the contract. He passes his questions on to other board members because he lacks a knowledge of what is actually going on in the front line.

No I'm not.

This guy is a clueless bomthrower. Anybody that knows anything about this industry knows the majority of airline pilots at the majors will come from the regionals. Preferences aside, the military is not producing pilots anywhere near the numbers they have in the past.

Ok. I guess I don't know who my own airline hired. My class at NWA in 2008 consisted of ALL regional guys. That's just ONE class.

The reality of the situation is that many military guys aren't leaving. With pensions no longer being provided many guys are staying in.

Irregardless the fact remains that there will be way more regional pilots looking to get on with a major than their will be seats at the majors for them.