Who really has a shot at PNCL's Q400's?
#51
Also, the Colgan crash really set the turboprop back in the public's mindset and made them believe that less experienced pilots were flying them in the first place. Believe me, when I flew the Q I didn't want to believe it either, but like I said it's night and day difference in passengers. Even if their logic is complete BS.
#52
I'm glad I could participate in derailing this thread, but I've lost interest in this silliness.
BTW, the guy that said C5 can barely keep their current planes up and running... well, yeah... that.
BTW, the guy that said C5 can barely keep their current planes up and running... well, yeah... that.
#53
Unfortunately, just because an airline couldn't keep up with their current flying doesn't mean they wouldn't go for a lot more.
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I flown Q's and RJ's, and I can personally say we get about 10% of the complaints about the jet, that we got about the Q. It seemed like everyone and their mother complained about how they were flying on a "propeller plane", while very few people complain about the "small jet".
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In the last year at Express, I can think of 1 time that we were weight restricted. Out of MCI to DEN, carrying an alternate, 20 or so military guys who check 15+ heavy bags and maxed out our cargo bin. We took 10 bags out and they sent them on a flight an hour later and we went out full.
#56
Why bother leasing to financially strapped US regionals?
Bombardier Q400 NextGen Airliner Heads to Calgary for WestJet Visit - MarketWatch
Bombardier Q400 NextGen Airliner Heads to Calgary for WestJet Visit - MarketWatch
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I think the regional industry is trending back to the way it used to be call it EAS type flights in which case the TP makes sense imo. You mentioned RJ styled stage length and it’s funny because I see many RJ’s flying city pairs that make no sense using them. Bring the flying back to mainline on appropriately sized aircraft for the route! I do agree maybe there should be updated 50 seater props back on the market because I don’t see the EAS markets dying like you view it.
The reality is that the economics of this industry no long support scheduled air carrier service into small town America. The "hub and spoke" system of the airline industry as it stands today is simply not economically sustainable and it is going through significant downsizing right now. This is not a guess or an opinion, this IS happening. The nonsensical city pairs you refer too are that way due to contractual requirements. If anything this should tell you that the factors behind airframe selection on certain routes is a far more complex issue then fuel burn.
The other issue you have working against you is that turboprop technology has matured. TPs are not going to get any more efficient then they already are and Turbofan technology is rapidly closing the gap of fuel burn between the two power plant types. It was simply inevitable that TP's would eventually see their end in US pax service. Though they will certainly carry on in small numbers for several more years what you will not see is an expansion of TP's at any carrier.
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Why bother leasing to financially strapped US regionals?
Bombardier Q400 NextGen Airliner Heads to Calgary for WestJet Visit - MarketWatch
Bombardier Q400 NextGen Airliner Heads to Calgary for WestJet Visit - MarketWatch
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