Who really has a shot at PNCL's Q400's?
04-05-2012 | 08:14 AM
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In the last year at Express, I can think of 1 time that we were weight restricted. Out of MCI to DEN, carrying an alternate, 20 or so military guys who check 15+ heavy bags and maxed out our cargo bin. We took 10 bags out and they sent them on a flight an hour later and we went out full.
04-05-2012 | 09:07 AM
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I commute on Expressjet and I see it frequently enough to pray one of the bent wing jets pulls into parking so it won't be an issue. I have no idea if it is landing or takeoff weight related. The Q400 is a lowly prop but it carries 74 adults, 114 bags, and a jumpseater 99% of the time...if it ain't broken.
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04-05-2012 | 09:27 AM
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You must live in a city where one of our EPs still operates. They are slowly going away, but only slowly. If its a captain that cares usually we can take a few hundred pounds less fuel and its a none issue. Any of our other 200 airplanes can take 52 and max bags everytime, but that doesn't help you if you live in those few select cities. We have 2 usuable jumpseats so 99% of the time commuters prefer us, but again, those EPs are the exception.
Good god, I hate EPs. My record weight restriction on one of those was 25 people out of EWR to IAD. (Booked to 52, of course).
04-05-2012 | 10:01 AM
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The Q's will get split up... they won't all go to the same company if PNCL doesn't keep them.
04-05-2012 | 10:09 AM
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dont agree. 35 airplanes of such a rare type would be far too expensive to split up. 2 different companys flying 17 and 18 rare planes each would cost united far more then just 1 company.
04-05-2012 | 12:17 PM
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You must live in a city where one of our EPs still operates. They are slowly going away, but only slowly. If its a captain that cares usually we can take a few hundred pounds less fuel and its a none issue. Any of our other 200 airplanes can take 52 and max bags everytime, but that doesn't help you if you live in those few select cities. We have 2 usuable jumpseats so 99% of the time commuters prefer us, but again, those EPs are the exception.
04-05-2012 | 12:30 PM
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Where did the 11 Lynx planes go? Horizon, Skyservice, Western Europe, and RAH I think? Doubt anyone wants or has the money for 35 extra planes right now... especially in the US.
04-05-2012 | 12:52 PM
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390 Q 400's (1050+ Dash 8) flying don't make them that rare. Most are out of North America so it may seem like it.
Where did the 11 Lynx planes go? Horizon, Skyservice, Western Europe, and RAH I think? Doubt anyone wants or has the money for 35 extra planes right now... especially in the US.
Where did the 11 Lynx planes go? Horizon, Skyservice, Western Europe, and RAH I think? Doubt anyone wants or has the money for 35 extra planes right now... especially in the US.
The Q is a rare plane is the sense theres only so many flying in the USA. The only USA carrier that flys for UAL and currently has a complete and ready Q program is RAH.
04-05-2012 | 01:07 PM
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I dont mean to start a fight or anything, but im not sure you understand how this all works. If RAH or SKW are quoted a lease rate that allows a profit with the fixed fee from UAL, then its an instant money maker.....on paper. Its up to the individual company to balance the cost of crews and other staffing requirements within the profit on paper to determine if its viable.
The Q is a rare plane is the sense theres only so many flying in the USA. The only USA carrier that flys for UAL and currently has a complete and ready Q program is RAH.
The Q is a rare plane is the sense theres only so many flying in the USA. The only USA carrier that flys for UAL and currently has a complete and ready Q program is RAH.
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