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Old 04-15-2012 | 08:36 AM
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250 to the marker, so I am assuming you hang everything out and start making a lot of noise with the props going forward, not even pull out your charts because you have it memorized! But you will fly it cheaper, so I will loose my job to your sh!ty airline... Flying like this is fun for a pilot but you are there to transport passengers from point A to point B in safe and confutable matter. Please be a professional pilot!
Your right I should have violated SOP's and landed without putting the props back. And your also right we flew it so cheap after the contract we won't be going out of business anymore. And your also right we purposely made the Saab loud, we had a quiet button just refused to press the damn thing.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 12:09 PM
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I'd add that your average passenger already thinks they are an RCH from going deaf just from riding on a turboprop. I doubt a couple minutes of slightly more noise is going to affect their opinion of the airplane or the flight. The poster above is right, they'll member the landing anyway.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by What
250 to the marker, so I am assuming you hang everything out and start making a lot of noise with the props going forward, not even pull out your charts because you have it memorized! But you will fly it cheaper, so I will loose my job to your sh!ty airline... Flying like this is fun for a pilot but you are there to transport passengers from point A to point B in safe and confutable matter. Please be a professional pilot!
I'm sorry, what airplane do you fly? do you have an fms and pull out your low enroute or hi enroute for every fix when you load it up? I was referring to not having to pull out the chart when atc says go direct to this vor because you know the freq. same as you going direct to a fix without the chart because you know the spelling.

250 to the marker is more comfortable because the pax spend less time sitting in the the saab. When you idle it at 250 it slows down quick and quiet especially if you have the dowty rotol props. Then the gear, flaps and props forward come at the normal speeds. There is nothing unstable, uncomfortable, or unprofessional about that for VISUAL approach with no one ahead of you and a long line behind you.

Ill fly it cheaper than who? You? Probably, I don't have the sense of entitlement you do. Your avatar makes it look like you fly for eagle but you are "standing with RAH pilots". Enjoy your Bankruptcy and furlough, I know Ill enjoy mine.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
I'm sorry, what airplane do you fly? do you have an fms and pull out your low enroute or hi enroute for every fix when you load it up? I was referring to not having to pull out the chart when atc says go direct to this vor because you know the freq. same as you going direct to a fix without the chart because you know the spelling.

250 to the marker is more comfortable because the pax spend less time sitting in the the saab. When you idle it at 250 it slows down quick and quiet especially if you have the dowty rotol props. Then the gear, flaps and props forward come at the normal speeds. There is nothing unstable, uncomfortable, or unprofessional about that for VISUAL approach with no one ahead of you and a long line behind you.

Ill fly it cheaper than who? You? Probably, I don't have the sense of entitlement you do. Your avatar makes it look like you fly for eagle but you are "standing with RAH pilots". Enjoy your Bankruptcy and furlough, I know Ill enjoy mine.
No sense of entitlement here, you still don't get! What you refer to in just dialing a frequency because you game it memorized is complacency, you can get and will likely get it correct 100% of the time. But I not willing to take that chance, to much is at risk. I don't fly an airplane with an FMS, we work in a field that doing something by memory becomes so easy but we also work in a field where we are dealing with many outside factors and a fatiguing schedules. We have different views and I think we should leave it at that!
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Old 04-15-2012 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by What
No sense of entitlement here, you still don't get! What you refer to in just dialing a frequency because you game it memorized is complacency, you can get and will likely get it correct 100% of the time. But I not willing to take that chance, to much is at risk. I don't fly an airplane with an FMS, we work in a field that doing something by memory becomes so easy but we also work in a field where we are dealing with many outside factors and a fatiguing schedules. We have different views and I think we should leave it at that!
So if u work in the field how are we
Putting u out of business by flying so cheap? WHAT?
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Old 04-15-2012 | 05:54 PM
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108.7 and 111.55... Can I get a gold star for my awesome complacency? I have a lot of ops frequencies memorized too, if it'll help guarantee that gold star...
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Old 04-15-2012 | 06:08 PM
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This guy's argument is laughable. So when tower tells me "Contact tower 125.35," I'm supposed to disregard that, head down in my chart and put that frequency in; possibly disregarding ATCs frequency they gave you.

There will always be one like him.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 06:33 PM
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Why does every thread on this forum, particularly the "regionals" forum, turn into a "I do my job better than you" battle? Someone simply stated why they enjoy flying the Saab, and it turn into some debate. If I said that I can't wait to fly the Saab because it actually has a lavatory, are you going to critique me on how many times I wipe my a$$ before I flush? Or should I look that up in the ops manual every time.



.........SOP says about 4.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
This guy's argument is laughable. So when tower tells me "Contact tower 125.35," I'm supposed to disregard that, head down in my chart and put that frequency in; possibly disregarding ATCs frequency they gave you.

There will always be one like him.

No you are supposed to put your head down after being told fly "direct Grand Rapids" for the 3rd day in a row, mid cycle just to look up that it's still 115.95. and in the process fly right through the most congested flight training area in the midwest.
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Old 04-15-2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sandrich
Why does every thread on this forum, particularly the "regionals" forum, turn into a "I do my job better than you" battle? Someone simply stated why they enjoy flying the Saab, and it turn into some debate. If I said that I can't wait to fly the Saab because it actually has a lavatory, are you going to critique me on how many times I wipe my a$$ before I flush? Or should I look that up in the ops manual every time.



.........SOP says about 4.
I laughed really hard, dude.
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