RedeyeAV8r

Please state who who work for

My point was.........the company (FDX anyway and most others too I imagine) owns you while you are "off duty" during a layover in the hotel ..............See where I'm Going??

fosters

I'm not talking about merely flying duties. Jetblue pilots already are required to help pick up the cabin and cross seatbelts. Next us regional pilots will have to start throwing bags because we're on the clock.

fosters

I think that might be too much to ask. Although $30k is a better starting figure, but it is 50% more then what they are paying now. That'll be a tough pill to swallow. We probably couldn't achieve that much of an increase along with increased days off in one contract. Keep in mind, with neogotiations, you have to give in order to take.

As far as 6 hour min day - I think that coupled with 80 hour min guarantee = almost 17 days off/month. While this is good for us, I would think the airlines would scoff at that seeing as though most places range from 8-10 (here we are at 12 for reserve and line holder). Also, 80/6 = 13.333. It's hard to get 1/3 day off .

My forumula was a nice easy figure with realistic expectations. 16 on/14 off per month min is a reasonable expectation for the future IMO. Of course, if your days credited more then 5 hours you could get more days off.

RedeyeAV8r

That Wouldn't surpise me.. JET BLUE Pilots are not Unionized.
If you aren't..........Get a Union organized.

If you do, during negotiations if the company proposes you sling bags or cross seat belts.(provided your membership is ok with it) tell them to **** off or.................... offer to do it for a large CASH Premium ..............

freezingflyboy

I help the FA cross seat belts and pick up trash at the outstations but thats because Im a nice guy...

Ski Patrol

Exactly that is the point. And in theory at the same time changing the publics perception of pilots. You know the one where someone says "60.00/hr as a captain for a part time job sweeeeeeet.....sign me up." As far as the w-2 is concerned it may or may not be the same since companies would have to pay overtime etc. per US labor laws.

Navy (see below) has it right with one exception..... Would the flood gates ever open as high if would be pilots saw a job in store paying $30.00 vs the current $60.00?

Final thought there has been some good posts regarding a fix of the longevity scales. Imagine an environment where if you didn't like mgt after xxxxx years or the company closed a base in your hometown you could quit and go elsewhere without going back to $20.00 First year pay will always suck to pay for training costs. However if the second year was around 50.00 to 80.00 for most regionals. Being tied to your co would be less of an issue. I know NSL addresses this but that is a union tool, And I don't have all the answers. I'm just looking for an economic fix. To present to ALPA (we have new leadership now) or whoever your assoc is. I'm still waiting for the post fix mesa & you fix the industry. However that is still "small potatoes" if you know what I mean.

fosters

I'm not sure how that pertains to our discussion though.