View Poll Results: This poll should be middle finger enough.
Rather see the place burn to the ground before agreeing to concessions.



142
88.75%
I'd consider voting on concessions if it's in the best interest of the company.



18
11.25%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll
New letter from S. Menke to Pinnacle employes
#11
However, for a number of reasons including maintenance costs and pilotproductivity that weren’t correctly factored and (in the case of ourpro-rate contracts) rising fuel costs, our United/Continental Q400 andDelta/9E CRJ-900 contracts signed in 2007 weren’t providing adequate feesto cover our costs.Escalating expenses:At the same time, we were experiencing a substantial rise in expenses.There were a number of drivers that included:· Delays in integrating our three airlines, which ultimately delayed ourability to attain cost synergies· Not right-sizing our management and professional organization quicklyenough· Complications with the implementation of our integrated seniority listthat cost millions of unforeseen dollars in crew productivity and trainingexpenses· A new pilot contract that added millions of payroll dollars to ourday-to-day operating expenses but weren’t scheduled to be reimbursed formore than a year after the new contract went into place· Costs associated with the relocation of our headquartersTaken together, the unprofitable contracts and escalating expenses madeour liquidity situation very tenuous. To solve these problems.....
The sh*tty management and now they have the balls to try and fix it at your expense.
#12
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 205
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Let me summarize this letter:
We screwed up in negotiating our contracts by signing agreements that were too cheap; this happened because we didn't do our due diligence or have the skill to correctly assess our costs.
We screwed up integrating our airlines because we didn't properly foresee, or have the skill to properly foresee, the complexity involved, nor did we have the skill to make up for this shortcoming.
We screwed up in our assessment of how to "right-size" the management team; i.e., we allowed too many overpriced management types to stay on board even though they were not needed.
In essence, I failed miserably at my job as CEO. I now ask you, the labor groups, to bail us out. I've tried desperately to get some extra revenue from Delta and United. United was reasonable but Delta, being the pricks that they are and seeing an opportunity to keep their foot on the collective throats of their regional partners, refused.
Now, despite this, I'm blaming you, the pilots, for not accepting drastic reductions to your already absurdly low pay and benefits. This is all your fault. And now, we are going to make sure you get it even worse. But I'm going to try to pay myself more.
Yours always,
Mr. Douche-nozzle.
We screwed up in negotiating our contracts by signing agreements that were too cheap; this happened because we didn't do our due diligence or have the skill to correctly assess our costs.
We screwed up integrating our airlines because we didn't properly foresee, or have the skill to properly foresee, the complexity involved, nor did we have the skill to make up for this shortcoming.
We screwed up in our assessment of how to "right-size" the management team; i.e., we allowed too many overpriced management types to stay on board even though they were not needed.
In essence, I failed miserably at my job as CEO. I now ask you, the labor groups, to bail us out. I've tried desperately to get some extra revenue from Delta and United. United was reasonable but Delta, being the pricks that they are and seeing an opportunity to keep their foot on the collective throats of their regional partners, refused.
Now, despite this, I'm blaming you, the pilots, for not accepting drastic reductions to your already absurdly low pay and benefits. This is all your fault. And now, we are going to make sure you get it even worse. But I'm going to try to pay myself more.
Yours always,
Mr. Douche-nozzle.
#15
"A new pilot contract that added millions of payroll dollars to ourday-to-day operating expenses but weren’t scheduled to be reimbursed formore than a year after the new contract went into place·"
Leave it to management to complain about pilots making $25k/year.
Leave it to management to complain about pilots making $25k/year.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
The union is really representing the lifers as its ran by them. We need to shut this place down if only to try to raise the bar to prevent a career of this BS. Let it burn. Vote NO on anything and run the company into the ground.
Last edited by Deice Press; 05-04-2012 at 05:48 AM.
#17
When United tried to force crap contracts on ACA and Air Wis nobody took pay cuts and nobody got raises. I know what happened to ACA but at least KS backed his people and said he wouldn't accept a subpar contract.
In this case we accepted subpar contacts and the our leaders got massive pay increases and then turn around "yet again" and say its employees are over paid.
I'm stunned by this latest letter.
I agree it's time to shut this place down.
In 2012 with gas prices at 4+ $ a gallon your really gonna say you need someone making 30K a year to take a cut while you just got a 200K raise is inhuman.
STFD.
In this case we accepted subpar contacts and the our leaders got massive pay increases and then turn around "yet again" and say its employees are over paid.
I'm stunned by this latest letter.
I agree it's time to shut this place down.
In 2012 with gas prices at 4+ $ a gallon your really gonna say you need someone making 30K a year to take a cut while you just got a 200K raise is inhuman.
STFD.
#18
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Musical Chairs
A business model that cannot afford to pay it's labor industry average wages is no longer a viable business model. This place is (and was) truly managed by some of the most inept individuals in the industry. Let it burn, it doesn't deserve to exist anymore.
#19
He basically said give it up or ill have the courts take it from you. I say screw this place. You know what really grinds my gears, that fact that management can fail at their jobs and we are held responsible. I would rather see this place burn to the ground before I give any type of concession.
#20
Saw on CNBC (was on when I was in the gym) a graph showing employee productivity vs pay. It was astounding. Productivity was substantially up while pay was the inverse. Sad state of where we are heading. The point was the upper class was becoming extreme upper class while the middle class is vanishing.
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