If RAH Pilots are Released to Strike.....
05-13-2012 | 02:42 PM
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A new hire on probation, provided he has paid the initiation fee and is current on dues, is a member of the union. True, a probationary pilot can be fired without cause and does not have access to the System Board.
This does not apply to a return to work agreement following a strike. Any back to work agreement containing a provision for reinstatement of hostages, probationary or not, would be outside the scope of the contract as it applies to probation.
I do not see PG & co failing to insist on the reinstatement of hostages in any back to work agreement.
05-13-2012 | 02:50 PM
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05-13-2012 | 02:52 PM
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This statement is only partially correct and is therefore misleading.
A new hire on probation, provided he has paid the initiation fee and is current on dues, is a member of the union. True, a probationary pilot can be fired without cause and does not have access to the System Board.
This does not apply to a return to work agreement following a strike. Any back to work agreement containing a provision for reinstatement of hostages, probationary or not, would be outside the scope of the contract as it applies to probation.
I do not see PG & co failing to insist on the reinstatement of hostages in any back to work agreement.
A new hire on probation, provided he has paid the initiation fee and is current on dues, is a member of the union. True, a probationary pilot can be fired without cause and does not have access to the System Board.
This does not apply to a return to work agreement following a strike. Any back to work agreement containing a provision for reinstatement of hostages, probationary or not, would be outside the scope of the contract as it applies to probation.
I do not see PG & co failing to insist on the reinstatement of hostages in any back to work agreement.
05-13-2012 | 03:32 PM
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RAH Contract:
Probation is a management tool.
2.53. Probationary Period – A Pilot’s first twelve (12) months of active service (exclusive of furlough or leave of absence) with the Company from the pilot’s date of hire. If a Pilot upgrades to Captain during the probationary period, his probation will end upon completion of the upgrade checkride.
18.F.3. A pilot shall be on probation for the first twelve (12) months of active service with the Company. Nothing in this agreement shall
be construed to extend the right to arbitrate a grievance concerning
his discipline or discharge to a probationary pilot, or to require that
such discipline or discharge be based on just cause. However, a
probationary pilot shall have the right to submit grievances.
be construed to extend the right to arbitrate a grievance concerning
his discipline or discharge to a probationary pilot, or to require that
such discipline or discharge be based on just cause. However, a
probationary pilot shall have the right to submit grievances.
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05-13-2012 | 04:18 PM
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Good advice Bolo. Crossing the picket line would be a mistake, I think we can agree on that. But thinking the IBT will protect a new hire, maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. Good luck if that happens.
Oskeewowow can't wait to get away from Frontier as much as Frontier can't wait to get away from RAH? I'm sure that's correct right up to the part that concerns jumping into the Airbus.
Remember the point of this tread is what happens if there is a strike against RAH, not how great they are. Best of luck to everyone there. I would guess most RAH pilots would like to get away from RAH as much as anyone at Frontier wants to be separate.
Oskeewowow can't wait to get away from Frontier as much as Frontier can't wait to get away from RAH? I'm sure that's correct right up to the part that concerns jumping into the Airbus.
Remember the point of this tread is what happens if there is a strike against RAH, not how great they are. Best of luck to everyone there. I would guess most RAH pilots would like to get away from RAH as much as anyone at Frontier wants to be separate.
05-13-2012 | 04:48 PM
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05-13-2012 | 06:23 PM
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There won't be any strike.
Bedford's going to have CEOs from United, USAirways, American, and Delta on the phone telling him to negotiate a contract. Republic flies for all 4 airlines with strong shuttle routes on the Delta side (LGA-ORD, LGA-DCA, LGA-BOS) that would be crippled by a strike. There's no way 4 airlines would let it go that far.
At this point it's a matter of getting released to get the ball rolling to get management scared....but the mediators seem to be dragging their damn feet. Love the RLA
Bedford's going to have CEOs from United, USAirways, American, and Delta on the phone telling him to negotiate a contract. Republic flies for all 4 airlines with strong shuttle routes on the Delta side (LGA-ORD, LGA-DCA, LGA-BOS) that would be crippled by a strike. There's no way 4 airlines would let it go that far.
At this point it's a matter of getting released to get the ball rolling to get management scared....but the mediators seem to be dragging their damn feet. Love the RLA
05-13-2012 | 06:24 PM
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The probation period is not an open shut case for employers. They still need just cause to terminate an employee. I bet if you hired some lawyers they could argue that the 12 month period is too long and unconstitutional. Trial periods were created to find out if an employee is able to do their job, not as a firing tool.
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