If someone tried to complain about not checking in while non reving I would fart in the cockpit door as I was passing by. Kidding but that is rediculous

So what did this person do? Your right the capt can kick anyone off but NO one is required to check in while non reving. I have been non reving my whole life and never have I or to my knowledge, my parents checked in ( both employees)

 

Incorrect. Non revs don't "hop a ride" They have the privilege of riding on their companies planes. The captain can not deny a non-rev boarding just because they felt like it or because "they didn't say hi to me". They need to believe that there is a safety of flight issue if they deny a non-rev boarding. While the captain may win the "battle" at the gate in getting the person removed he/she will lose the war if that person complains to the company that the captain denied them boarding for no reason. ALL employees are given the privilege to travel on their companies airplanes. It is one of their benefits. If a captain is denying non-revs that benefit "just because" then that person wont be a captain or employed very long. That would be a very awkward carpet dance with the chief pilot to explain why they were kicking employees off the plane for no reason.


Exactly. I have been non-reving since I was 1 all over the world with my parents and not once have we ever gone to the flight deck and introduced our selves to the captain. Also in my short 5 years as captain I have never, nor do I expect, all the non-revs to check in with me prior to getting on the plane. I wouldn't even be able to tell the non-revs from the regular pax unless they are wearing uniforms. The Jump seat, whether it is in the front or back, belongs to the captain. The rest of the seats in the airplane belong to the paying passengers and non-revs who have earned the privilege to be there. If they are not following the policy regarding non-reving or are causing problems, then the captain has full authority to remove them, like any paying passenger, from the flight. Otherwise they are picking a fight they will not win and may even end up with a suspension of their own benefits.

 

Denying a non-rev boarding for not saying hi, and hurting your feelings is NOT a legitimate reason. If a jumpseater does it, then summon them to your presence and educate them, and you would be correct to do so. Your basis of captains authority is correct, but your application is way off.

 

Let me guess, you work for Gojet?

 

Well im a creature of habit...IN BEFORE THE LOCK!

 

It says it on your jumpseat pass, 'additional crew member' and usually says in print to check in with the captain. The captain must know about you. Never seen a non-rev seat request with that title, or instruction on it.

 

They don't have the right to deny a non rev just because they didn't say hi or bring them donuts. Any crew member can deny boarding if there is a valid REASON, not because they just don't like them. Why would you even want to deny boarding to a non rev who is dressed properly and following all the rules? Are you just a jerk? The captain can remove someone from a flight initially, but will probably have to explain when it comes out that it was only because his/her feelings/ego were/was bruised. I'd sure like to see it somewhere in writing where a captain can take it upon himself to just deny someone their travel benefits because he feels like it and they've done nothing wrong. Just to be clear, I am NOT talking about jumpseat, I am talking about non rev.

 

Check your messages buddy

 

Wow, 5 bloody pages on Jumpseating vs. non-revving? Is this a joke? Or airline etiquette for dummies? Flying the line for the Galactically stupid? Come on, twenty people have answered the OP and twenty people want to argue why! Grade school is dismissed! Read and understand! What do we have to do, draw you a diagram?

 

First of all, it's not your place to direct non revs to the CA. Non revs often pay an annual fee for their travel, and they are not obligated to introduce themselves to the flight crew. Secondly, while non rev travel can be taken away, it is certainly not within the powers of a flight crew to do so. Your CA's can not just turn someone back to the gate area because they didn't say hello as a non rev. A jumpseater is a different story, but a non rev.....no.

Third, a non rev pass is NOT a free ride. If I buy an ID90 on Air France, it is a space available pass and I am under NO obligation to introduce myself to the crew. I bought that ticket. It wasn't free. Same as if I non rev on Delta. I pay my annual fee, & if assigned a seat from a non rev listing I don't have to say hi to anyone. Last, you're assuming a non rev is a pilot. Will a gate agent or ramper be able to help out if one of the pilots passes out?

It's important people know the difference between non rev travel and Jumpseat travel. They are two different animals. Only pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, & ATC can Jumpseat.(There are a few others such as Secret Service, mechanics, etc)