This is directed mostly at the guys who expect commuting pilots to stop by the cockpit...

My understanding is that as a non-rev, you are being extended a courtesy, and the privilege shouldn't be taken for granted- you are a guest on the Captain's airplane. So far so good.

Why then, is the requirement to "check in" with the operating crew restricted to pilots? I see FA's, and other airline employees travelling every day without stopping at the cockpit, and CA's don't seem to care.

I can't seem to see the logic behind the "selective screening" of non-revs...




unless they're gojet pilots, but I'd like to keep them out of this.

 

It has nothing to do with non revs as you are the 'airlines' guest and everything to do with jumpseating as you are the Captain's guest. Nonrev refers to the parent company's employees and families (ramper, gate agent, OCC, pilot.......) riding their own airline or regional on the parent company's flights. Usually no need to check in, although sometimes a pilot may say 'hi' as a courtesy. You are a guest of the company as this is part of your compensation.

Jumpseat is asking for a ride on an offline company (Delta on Hawaiian). Must check in as you are a guest of Captain and they have authority as to if you can ride. Jumpseat also refers to riding the actual jumpseat or F/A jumpseat on your own carrier which in case it is obvious why you 'check in'.

 

non reving.....and jumpseating.....TWO different animals all together

 

Pretty basic concept. You new to 121?

 

This could turn into an informative conversation..they don't teach you this etiquette stuff in ground school...

 

When commuting as a non-rev, I check in when I can, but I won't if it causes the slightest disruption. I usually don't on mainline flights, because overhead space is always tight, and I don't want to lose what space I might have over my seat in row 34 because of taking an extra minute or 2 "asking" for a ride.

If I am using jumpseat privileges (even with a seat in back), its a totally different story.

 

I never check in as a non rev. Heck half the time commuting to EWR the cal guys seem flabbergasted as to why I check in when I'm jumpseating If they gave me a seat. I always do of course.

 

Great contribution.

This stuff is never explained to new hires. How about we educate?

To the OP, the response by the previous poster above explains it well.

 

It's a whole different animal when non revving on F9 though. Check in up front or they get real ****y.

Have never been "required" to check in while using my earned flight bennies on any other carrier.

Jumpseating is a must.

 

As Eminem stated, "Here's my 10 cents, my 2 cents is free......"

I think your answer depends on what arrangement you are boarding the aircraft under:

"Jumpseater"-Crew member, on or offline, using a reciprocal jump seat agreement, whether seated on actual jumpseat or in cabin seat. Must check in with CA to ask for permission to ride, no matter what. Sometimes notated on paperwork as jumpseater even if provided a seat in the cabin by the gate agent. If CA comes up to the gate podium, I'll try and speak with him/her there to minimize congestion on the airplane during boarding. Recently, I've had the problem of jumpseating flight attendants either A)not stopping up front to introduce themselves and show credentials, or B)coming up front, and informing us that they will be riding with us instead of asking.

"Non-rev"-listed as 'non revenue passenger', does not need to check in. I'll only stop up front if I know the crew or have some reason that I would need to talk to them. Totally non-scientific and statistically insignificant, but they vast majority of crew members boarding the aircraft as 'non revenue passengers' do not come up to speak to us.

Just my take.