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Old 07-20-2012 | 10:42 AM
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Re-sourcing jobs to mainline= good news for long term career progression for all involved. Hopefully the DCI fleet will be downsized again in 2015. The additional jobs created at mainline DAL combined with upcoming retirements will provide a place for those furloughed to go. Once you get here you will never look back. Not being elitest, snobbish or smug, simply realistic. The regionals were never intended to be a career stop but a stepping stone. The last 10 years this was skewed and got out of proportion. Our TA at mainline has begun to swing the pendulum in the right direction. Hopefully you'll get in at the beginning of the hiring wave. For those of you in the right seat and looking for someplace to go.....do NOT start over at another Regional. Go expat now while the getting is good. Go to India, China or Africa and fly anything from the left seat that will get you turbine pic ASAP. Do it NOW and you'll be back here at a major within 12-18 mos. Your LONG term career aspects gave just improved dramatically, even though things look dire now.

Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
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Old 07-20-2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
Didn't XE try this also? Oh yeah, that's right. They didn't make it on their own either but instead of going into BK they were bought/saved by another airline. ohh missed that bullet.
XE's Branded operation was shut down because Continental wanted those airframes back in their system and threatened to cancel their contract at its expiration and/or hostile takeover to make it happen. No bankruptcy on the radar.
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Old 07-20-2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blastoff
XE's Branded operation was shut down because Continental wanted those airframes back in their system and threatened to cancel their contract at its expiration and/or hostile takeover to make it happen. No bankruptcy on the radar.
Load factor average 89% the day the doors closed. So sick of people hating on good companies.
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Old 07-20-2012 | 01:32 PM
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they are new to the industry or only know what is posted on forums,
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Old 07-20-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
they are new to the industry or only know what is posted on forums,
No, Bozo likes to flame XE.
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Old 07-20-2012 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
UPS has many pilots who made the choice to give up years of longevity and seniority at Delta, United , NWA and TWA . If you find yourself on dying horse don't ride it until its in the dirt.
Would you mind carrying in my resume? I could sure use a reference.

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Old 07-20-2012 | 03:36 PM
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John Bendoraitis
Career progression in short:
Northwest Mechanic
Northwest Mechanic with Degree
Northwest Maintenance Manager
Northwest no longer exists
President Compass Airlines
Compass sold to TSA
President Comair
Comair Soon to die
President Frontier Airlines
Frontier for sale-soon to die

He's just that good!
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Old 07-21-2012 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Re-sourcing jobs to mainline= good news for long term career progression for all involved. Hopefully the DCI fleet will be downsized again in 2015. The additional jobs created at mainline DAL combined with upcoming retirements will provide a place for those furloughed to go. Once you get here you will never look back. Not being elitest, snobbish or smug, simply realistic. The regionals were never intended to be a career stop but a stepping stone. The last 10 years this was skewed and got out of proportion. Our TA at mainline has begun to swing the pendulum in the right direction. Hopefully you'll get in at the beginning of the hiring wave. For those of you in the right seat and looking for someplace to go.....do NOT start over at another Regional. Go expat now while the getting is good. Go to India, China or Africa and fly anything from the left seat that will get you turbine pic ASAP. Do it NOW and you'll be back here at a major within 12-18 mos. Your LONG term career aspects gave just improved dramatically, even though things look dire now.

Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
Great Post! Pure class coming from a Delta pilot on a topic that rarely brings out the best in pilots....thank you.
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Old 07-21-2012 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Re-sourcing jobs to mainline= good news for long term career progression for all involved. Hopefully the DCI fleet will be downsized again in 2015. The additional jobs created at mainline DAL combined with upcoming retirements will provide a place for those furloughed to go. Once you get here you will never look back. Not being elitest, snobbish or smug, simply realistic. The regionals were never intended to be a career stop but a stepping stone. The last 10 years this was skewed and got out of proportion. Our TA at mainline has begun to swing the pendulum in the right direction. Hopefully you'll get in at the beginning of the hiring wave. For those of you in the right seat and looking for someplace to go.....do NOT start over at another Regional. Go expat now while the getting is good. Go to India, China or Africa and fly anything from the left seat that will get you turbine pic ASAP. Do it NOW and you'll be back here at a major within 12-18 mos. Your LONG term career aspects gave just improved dramatically, even though things look dire now.

Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
While I'll agree with most of what you say, you gotta remember not all RJ guys are young single dudes that can go expat on a whim. We are talking about people potentially losing jobs that have wives, kids, etc.. I'm all for us reigning in scope but it does affect lives and families.
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Old 07-21-2012 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
While I'll agree with most of what you say, you gotta remember not all RJ guys are young single dudes that can go expat on a whim. We are talking about people potentially losing jobs that have wives, kids, etc.. I'm all for us reigning in scope but it does affect lives and families.
So are you saying that all expats are young, single dudes? I am an expat and I see mostly older, experienced, married guys. It really isn't that hard to be an expat. There are commuting contracts that you can get. There are nice places to move your family as well. If your spouse supports your career then it shouldn't be a problem. If the spouse doesn't support your career choice then that is another matter. Mine supports it and the lifestyle it gives her and accepts the 3 weeks away at a time.

All I'm saying is don't rule it out just because you are married.
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