News Report: Comair getting shut down?
#81
Sounds like drinking the KoolAid instead of focusing on where a regional makes its living: feeding a major airline, with contracted flying. That feed and contract can and will be eliminated at the whim of the major airline partner. You'd bet your career on that? I wouldn't.
Please research it.....bet you it will surprise you.
#82
Guy, OH was largest privately owned "Regional" carrier in the world before DL bought it (still not sure why) and screwed it up. It WAS a place to work and retire from. You'd surprised how many pilots retired from there after 15, 20, 25+ years in the line. It wrote its own ticket (per say) for a very long time, and was bigger than lots of the majors of this time (Airtran, Spirit, and I believe Jetblue). And at one time was hellbent on moving on up (to the east side) to "major" status by buying bigger aircrafts (757, 737 and others), and join the fray against the DL, US, AA, etc in this country. Btw, I believe after the purchase, there were 10-15 of the DL MD-88 that were fully purchased with OH assets (money) and for some years flew under the Comair Holdings registration. I jumpsat in a couple of those and got a kick by seeing the registration.
Please research it.....bet you it will surprise you.
Please research it.....bet you it will surprise you.
#83
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There was a time when being a "wholly owned subsidiary" meant something different than being a "contract carrier". Perhaps you
are too young or lacking in vocational experience to remember...
Many of you forget that this consolidation/shifting of flying amongst regional carriers has been ongoing for >10 yrs. Some of us that were caught up in the first rounds moved to a wholly owned for what was supposed to be stability. Many forget that there was a time where getting hired at a wholly owned was perceived to having attained the "Holy Grail" of regional jobs. But as I've said, many of you on these boards have been in this industry for too short of time to remember. It is shocking how many have not heard and do not know the history and likes of former regional carriers such as Skyway, Chicago Express, Atlantic Coast, etc to name but a few.
I agree that today though, it is virtually meaningless.
are too young or lacking in vocational experience to remember...
Many of you forget that this consolidation/shifting of flying amongst regional carriers has been ongoing for >10 yrs. Some of us that were caught up in the first rounds moved to a wholly owned for what was supposed to be stability. Many forget that there was a time where getting hired at a wholly owned was perceived to having attained the "Holy Grail" of regional jobs. But as I've said, many of you on these boards have been in this industry for too short of time to remember. It is shocking how many have not heard and do not know the history and likes of former regional carriers such as Skyway, Chicago Express, Atlantic Coast, etc to name but a few.
I agree that today though, it is virtually meaningless.
Guy, OH was largest privately owned "Regional" carrier in the world before DL bought it (still not sure why) and screwed it up. It WAS a place to work and retire from. You'd surprised how many pilots retired from there after 15, 20, 25+ years in the line. It wrote its own ticket (per say) for a very long time, and was bigger than lots of the majors of this time (Airtran, Spirit, and I believe Jetblue). And at one time was hellbent on moving on up (to the east side) to "major" status by buying bigger aircrafts (757, 737 and others), and join the fray against the DL, US, AA, etc in this country. Btw, I believe after the purchase, there were 10-15 of the DL MD-88 that were fully purchased with OH assets (money) and for some years flew under the Comair Holdings registration. I jumpsat in a couple of those and got a kick by seeing the registration.
Please research it.....bet you it will surprise you.
Please research it.....bet you it will surprise you.
Btw, I believe after the purchase, there were 10-15 of the DL MD-88 that were fully purchased with OH assets (money) and for some years flew under the Comair Holdings registration.
#84
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From: B-777 F/O
Shy,
We all have the advantage of hindsight now. As to why people would stay some reasons were given. It was a case of perception. Being junior, I moved on as soon as I could. I'm sure the senior people now are not at all happy with the present situation not just their personal situation but also Comair's too. They held out hope that things would recover as OH went through NG2,3,4 and whatever they are up to now.
I was recently in Narita with some UA and CO guys. They also spoke of how trhings had changed for them in ways they would have never dreamed in their worst dreams (regarding the last 15years). It's not just OH that has hit a wall, the difference is, as you mention, being wholly owned they are at the owning airlines mercy in the race to the bottom that is not a good place to be.
One thing posters fail to mention is the great people who are at OH and their families. Hopefully DL pulls a "just kidding" and lets the good people continue.
We all have the advantage of hindsight now. As to why people would stay some reasons were given. It was a case of perception. Being junior, I moved on as soon as I could. I'm sure the senior people now are not at all happy with the present situation not just their personal situation but also Comair's too. They held out hope that things would recover as OH went through NG2,3,4 and whatever they are up to now.
I was recently in Narita with some UA and CO guys. They also spoke of how trhings had changed for them in ways they would have never dreamed in their worst dreams (regarding the last 15years). It's not just OH that has hit a wall, the difference is, as you mention, being wholly owned they are at the owning airlines mercy in the race to the bottom that is not a good place to be.
One thing posters fail to mention is the great people who are at OH and their families. Hopefully DL pulls a "just kidding" and lets the good people continue.
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