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Old 07-23-2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
You have to remember the pilot group you are targeting. The older pilots at Comair are not going to go ex-pat. Hell, they stayed at Comair all these years because they didn't even want to leave Cincinnati or commute for their jobs. You think they will go overseas...with only a few years till retirement?

Back in mid-2010, when this "downsizing" was announced, it was estimated that the junior captain would be a 1999 hire. What are the latest thoughts on this?

Junior captain, on reserve, after 13 years?? WOW, sounds like USAirways with lower pay!
Im pretty sure the 1999 would be the plug's doh when the 50's were parked.
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Old 07-23-2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Why not leave in 2006 when the BK and paycuts ensued? You have to pick your battles. Either be willing to leave CVG, or commute to a new job, or stay put at Comair and hope it sticks out til retirement. 2006 was a good time to get hired, and everyone was hiring except American Airlines.
Because BK and paycuts is not a cut down to 44 aircraft (or maybe less now). Back in 2010, Comair said by year end 2012 only 44 planes...which is roughly 440 pilots. At the time, there were around 1100-1200 pilots. If that didn't make you leave...I don't know what would.
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Old 07-23-2012 | 12:56 PM
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If there's not a flying job here in the US, then I quit. This job is not worth turning yourself into a nomad just to find a decent job. While the US has lots of issues, I'm not about to go to the middle east, or any where else for that matter, just to build time. I will not chase flying jobs around the globe. I'd rather do something else in that case. Just my 2 cents

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Old 07-23-2012 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog
If there's not a flying job here in the US, then I quit. This job is not worth turning yourself into a nomad just to find a decent job. While the US has lots of issues, I'm not about to go to the middle east, or any where else for that matter, just to build time. I will not chase flying jobs around the globe. I'd rather do something else in that case. Just my 2 cents

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that's a big +1.
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Old 07-23-2012 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog
If there's not a flying job here in the US, then I quit. This job is not worth turning yourself into a nomad just to find a decent job. While the US has lots of issues, I'm not about to go to the middle east, or any where else for that matter, just to build time. I will not chase flying jobs around the globe. I'd rather do something else in that case. Just my 2 cents

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Very well said, my thoughts exactly!
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Old 07-23-2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MunkyButtr
Im pretty sure the 1999 would be the plug's doh when the 50's were parked.
Close, I think early 98 got to stay in the left seat in the 50. It's 91 or 92 to hold Captain in the 70.
Don't we still have some 50s to park? Or are we already at 16?
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Old 07-23-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Hard to fathom that plenty of pilots at 9E, OO, RP, have gone on to fruitful careers at fedex, virgin, emirates, spirit, jetblue, atlas, and were barely in high school when most of the current comair pilots were hired..
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Old 07-23-2012 | 05:46 PM
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It's not hard to fathom why senior pilots have stayed on at OH.
After the strike life was good at OH. When I was hired in '03 it was touted as "A place you can stay". Life was very good for those senior. Pay for those most senior was about upper 90's or so, retirement, excellent pass benefits, and because of PBS they bid what fit their personal needs and some were living the dream.
I flew with some who were content and had no desire to leave. Some Capt's I flew with saw OH as a means to an end and some saw it as an end.
Hopefully things do not close up at OH but if they make it out of this drama this should be a strong wake up call to move on to the majors and not be picky about where you go.
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Old 07-24-2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleD
It's not hard to fathom why senior pilots have stayed on at OH.
After the strike life was good at OH. When I was hired in '03 it was touted as "A place you can stay". Life was very good for those senior. Pay for those most senior was about upper 90's or so, retirement, excellent pass benefits, and because of PBS they bid what fit their personal needs and some were living the dream.
I flew with some who were content and had no desire to leave. Some Capt's I flew with saw OH as a means to an end and some saw it as an end.
Hopefully things do not close up at OH but if they make it out of this drama this should be a strong wake up call to move on to the majors and not be picky about where you go.
Sounds like drinking the KoolAid instead of focusing on where a regional makes its living: feeding a major airline, with contracted flying. That feed and contract can and will be eliminated at the whim of the major airline partner. You'd bet your career on that? I wouldn't.
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Old 07-24-2012 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Sounds like drinking the KoolAid instead of focusing on where a regional makes its living: feeding a major airline, with contracted flying. That feed and contract can and will be eliminated at the whim of the major airline partner. You'd bet your career on that? I wouldn't.
There was a time when being a "wholly owned subsidiary" meant something different than being a "contract carrier". Perhaps you
are too young or lacking in vocational experience to remember...

Many of you forget that this consolidation/shifting of flying amongst regional carriers has been ongoing for >10 yrs. Some of us that were caught up in the first rounds moved to a wholly owned for what was supposed to be stability. Many forget that there was a time where getting hired at a wholly owned was perceived to having attained the "Holy Grail" of regional jobs. But as I've said, many of you on these boards have been in this industry for too short of time to remember. It is shocking how many have not heard and do not know the history and likes of former regional carriers such as Skyway, Chicago Express, Atlantic Coast, etc to name but a few.

I agree that today though, it is virtually meaningless.
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