News Report: Comair getting shut down?
07-21-2012 | 11:34 PM
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So ur saying in 2007-2008 cal wanted more xr's from expressjet! Cuz I remember xe furloughing
07-22-2012 | 12:14 PM
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Re-sourcing jobs to mainline= good news for long term career progression for all involved. Hopefully the DCI fleet will be downsized again in 2015. The additional jobs created at mainline DAL combined with upcoming retirements will provide a place for those furloughed to go. Once you get here you will never look back. Not being elitest, snobbish or smug, simply realistic. The regionals were never intended to be a career stop but a stepping stone. The last 10 years this was skewed and got out of proportion. Our TA at mainline has begun to swing the pendulum in the right direction. Hopefully you'll get in at the beginning of the hiring wave. For those of you in the right seat and looking for someplace to go.....do NOT start over at another Regional. Go expat now while the getting is good. Go to India, China or Africa and fly anything from the left seat that will get you turbine pic ASAP. Do it NOW and you'll be back here at a major within 12-18 mos. Your LONG term career aspects gave just improved dramatically, even though things look dire now.
Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
Hopefully it'll work out better than it did for the Eastern pilots, how many did DAL hire again? Was it three or was it four?
Best of luck to all.
07-22-2012 | 12:26 PM
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While I'll agree with most of what you say, you gotta remember not all RJ guys are young single dudes that can go expat on a whim. We are talking about people potentially losing jobs that have wives, kids, etc.. I'm all for us reigning in scope but it does affect lives and families.
Yep, been there done that along with alot of other 9-11 furloughed pilots.
07-22-2012 | 12:32 PM
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The thing with Comair is....there will be no buyer. I love how some think that there will be a savior that rises and rescues them. It's over Johnny...it's over. No company owned planes, just Delta leased planes. Very senior pilots (since all the lower ones will be gone). Not even a building!! Nobody will make that investment thinking they could turn a former gem, turned turd, back into a gem.
07-22-2012 | 12:39 PM
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Re-sourcing jobs to mainline= good news for long term career progression for all involved. Hopefully the DCI fleet will be downsized again in 2015. The additional jobs created at mainline DAL combined with upcoming retirements will provide a place for those furloughed to go. Once you get here you will never look back. Not being elitest, snobbish or smug, simply realistic. The regionals were never intended to be a career stop but a stepping stone. The last 10 years this was skewed and got out of proportion. Our TA at mainline has begun to swing the pendulum in the right direction. Hopefully you'll get in at the beginning of the hiring wave. For those of you in the right seat and looking for someplace to go.....do NOT start over at another Regional. Go expat now while the getting is good. Go to India, China or Africa and fly anything from the left seat that will get you turbine pic ASAP. Do it NOW and you'll be back here at a major within 12-18 mos. Your LONG term career aspects gave just improved dramatically, even though things look dire now.
Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
Best of luck to all. You will all survive this and emerge stronger as a result.
Back in mid-2010, when this "downsizing" was announced, it was estimated that the junior captain would be a 1999 hire. What are the latest thoughts on this?
Junior captain, on reserve, after 13 years?? WOW, sounds like USAirways with lower pay!
07-22-2012 | 12:47 PM
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I would be curious how many pilots that were furloughed after 9-11 a) were recalled by their employer(s), b) hit the bricks and found a flying job elsewhere or c) left aviation completely. Could be a lesson in there somewhere.
07-22-2012 | 01:55 PM
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You have to remember the pilot group you are targeting. The older pilots at Comair are not going to go ex-pat. Hell, they stayed at Comair all these years because they didn't even want to leave Cincinnati or commute for their jobs. You think they will go overseas...with only a few years till retirement?
Back in mid-2010, when this "downsizing" was announced, it was estimated that the junior captain would be a 1999 hire. What are the latest thoughts on this?
Junior captain, on reserve, after 13 years?? WOW, sounds like USAirways with lower pay!
Back in mid-2010, when this "downsizing" was announced, it was estimated that the junior captain would be a 1999 hire. What are the latest thoughts on this?
Junior captain, on reserve, after 13 years?? WOW, sounds like USAirways with lower pay!
07-22-2012 | 05:44 PM
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07-23-2012 | 12:43 AM
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Hahaha nothing in Eagles history goes that far back... American Eagle was many carriers back in the day and started merging them in 98 with our current 16yr contract. First "American Eagle Flight" was a metro liner in 84. Eagle and Exec are still separate certificates with one seniority list.
07-23-2012 | 04:24 AM
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While I'll agree with most of what you say, you gotta remember not all RJ guys are young single dudes that can go expat on a whim. We are talking about people potentially losing jobs that have wives, kids, etc.. I'm all for us reigning in scope but it does affect lives and families.
It all comes down to the families themselves but I personally have been an expat in China with my lovely wife and two young daughters for four years. Next month we are all moving to Qatar as a family unit to pursue another great flying job where my skills will be well compensated. If you have a wife (or a husband) that's open to a life changing experience it can be a great option. I understand not everyone can see the benefit or is willing to make the adjustment for one reason or another. Best of luck to all the Comair pilots and any other furloughed pilot at any airline.
Oh, and don't assume that you're significant other will just say "no" if you bring up a move overseas and so you never bring it up. I did and then when I mentioned it in jest she surprised me and said, "Let's do it."
You never know what you are capable of until you try.
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