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Old 07-27-2012 | 10:18 AM
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So sorry to hear this! Good luck to all of ya'll!

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Old 07-27-2012 | 11:07 AM
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Sad day for those at COMAIR. It should also be a wake up call to everyone in the regional part of this business. I have a couple of friends there.....they have been in denial for awhile about what was happening around them. I will be there to help and support them.

On the other hand, much is made on this board about mainline taking back flying... reducing regional feed....etc..... if anyone thought all that could happen and something like this would not be the effect of that ... thats pretty difficult to comprehend. If we as a profession wish for regional companies as they now exist to no longer fly for mainline, then more of this HAS to happen going forward.
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Old 07-27-2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by b73nav8r
PJColgan going away. Comair going away. Who's next? Wait and see. It's actually what is needed in this industry. All flying should be done at the majors and ALL pilots should be employed by majors. No more whip sawing!
Who's next? Piedmont. Now, if all the undercutting bottom feeders jump on board too, maybe this industry can start climbing back out of the toilet. Until then, best of luck to those at Comair.
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Old 07-27-2012 | 11:44 AM
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What a waste all that money they spent buying us out in January w the early out to then close doors!!!
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Old 07-27-2012 | 11:58 AM
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Just wanted to tell my friends and former coworkers at Comair how sorry I am to see this day. The slow dismemberment of Comair over the last 10 years has been sad to see. Hopefully everyone will land on their feet.
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Old 07-27-2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Okie Play
I was thinking the same thing. They are going to have fun trying to cover what flying is left when every last employee is trying to use up their sick bank before it is too late.
I'm sure they'll be just fine (If by they, you mean Delta).

Sorry to hear this, goodluck guys!
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Old 07-27-2012 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by b73nav8r
Colgan going away. Comair going away. Who's next? Wait and see. It's actually what is needed in this industry. All flying should be done at the majors and ALL pilots should be employed by majors. No more whip sawing!
This isn't the time or place for this but I think it's a discussion worth having. This is such a pipe dream and fantasy. There is a niche that the majors will NEVER be able to fill profitably. And the major pilots know this. Yet, they use regional guys as pawns just as much as management. Their Contracts are improved partly on the backs of regional pilots. They don't give two $#!? about us, and they pretend they do. "someday you'll be allowed in the club boys!" just don't ask too much now."
Mother Delta has made some horrific mistakes, and this is a shame for the families at Comair. And the pilots at Delta have a right and obligation to their families to protect and grow their work. But don't, for one second, think D pilots give two cents about you.
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Old 07-27-2012 | 12:17 PM
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Best of luck to everyone at Comair. I know several guys there or who have left. All very stand up people and hope the best for all you guys! God speed!
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Old 07-27-2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FixTheMess
Who's next? Piedmont. Now, if all the undercutting bottom feeders jump on board too, maybe this industry can start climbing back out of the toilet. Until then, best of luck to those at Comair.
Agreed. Wisconsin may not be far behind.
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Old 07-27-2012 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Okie Play
They are going to have fun trying to cover what flying is left when every last employee is trying to use up their sick bank before it is too late.
According to an internal DL memo, Comair provides only 1% of the DCI lift. That can be covered very easily by mainline and the remaining DCI.

This is not to gloat. This is a very sad day indeed. However, this is also the price to be paid for mainline carriers reducing their reliance on outsourced carriers. The overall loss of pilot seats at the DCI level due to the new PWA scope at mainline in somewhere around 1600. This is after accounting for the extra 70 allowed 76 seaters. Many view that TA as a scope sellout, yet make no mistake, it will cost a lot of regional pilots their jobs as the seats transition back to mainline, (unfortunately not all 1600 due to other "efficiencies" in the TA.)

There will most likely be more company closings and/or merger/accusitions down the road. What we saw at the legacy level back in 2001-2005, we are now seeing at the regional level.

Sad day indeed.
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