They lease almost all the airplanes anyway. Like the entire EMJ fleet we have now to my knowledge are all on long term leases, thats at least what the union claimed as fact.

When do you guys have to vote ? Date ?

They are developing contract language now and that will take a couple weeks. Then if the MEC likes it & agrees to go forward, they will do roadshows for a few weeks then voting would open.

But come on, there is no fleet plan or any guarantee to the amount of flying we would have but we'd have furlough protection. That alone shod set off the warning sirens. Why are there Saab rates & CRJ rates? Because they want to sell us to the highest bidder. Horton has already announced this as his intention for us. We are coming into an unprecedented regional pilot shortage & trust me they are concerned about it.

Now I'm not hard core blinders on, but why on earth are we accepting the first crappy offer they push thru? Send a message to them and the company that it's not good enough. Don't jump at the fear grenade they throw out, for once WE the pilot group hold Thr upper hand. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to call the bluff.

Stand together, show done backbone and let's put a stop to the race to the bottom. We owe to this profession!i

Nope...read the last annual report to shareholders

Does voting yes guarantee it won't be transfered?

I need to see the language
 

I'm not sure how I'm going to vote until I see the details but here are a couple of my thoughts.

PBS: might work out in some ways. Being relatively junior in my base I would love to be able to bid days off and have a schedule built around that. Instead I have to try to bid a crappy line ( reserve or hard line ) try to trip trade and see "denied due to staffing".

Sick & Vacation in one bucket: We're giving up a week of vacation but we can now use the sick time we accrue. Seems like a wash as the company will smack your balls if you try using all your sick time anyways.

Home Reserve: with a positive spaced ticket this could really work out for us commuters. It would be nice to give up the crash pad. Again I need to see the language.

Captains are taking 2.5% pay cut. Well I'm in the what about me generation and I doubt I'll ever be a captain at AE.

Saabs, CRJ's and E175's oh my....could care less. We had E175 pay rates at Comair and the airplane was never flown by a Comair pilot. There is no doubt that Skywest and Republic are going to be given planes and routes. This particular item is in the hands of mainline.

Flow and Furlough....Pffft. You can put that next to the Charmin. Furlough protection has never worked and AA still hasn't had a use for the 200+ guys now at Eagle.

So for me it all comes down to the language.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

TC

How many releases to self-help were requested under W? I remember the NW mechanics strike was allowed. And I believe the administration stated that it would convene a PEB after the cooling off period expired for AA FAs back in 2001.

In recent memory I recall Clinton ordered AA pilots back to work in 1997.

I wouldn't count on help in Washington for anything. Regardless of who is in office.

Nope. No fleet plan or minimum block hours. I'm sure Transtate Holdings is chomping at the bit as well.

How's Compass treating you Mr. Moon?

If only the SEIU were our union. Then this would get solved quick. ;)

You're wrong. Captains aren't getting a pay cut. You reading the same term sheet? Also, we dont have CRJ900/E175 pay rates. We have CRJ700 pay rates that will be used for the 900/175, for 4 years. And pay banding, meaning there will most likely be a few captains on the 700/900/175 flying at E145 rates.