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lakehouse 08-15-2012 05:05 AM

what is the AEPA?

I wish we could get these LEC reps and MEC leadership out. I cant recalled the last time an LEC meeting was held down here in MIA.

Bozo 08-15-2012 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 1245584)
Thanks for the obvious. But we have a gun to our head. You guys gave it away because management asked you to.

And if you talk to most of the groups that use PBS that the pilot group was able to obtain so much of the control.

When and how long were you at ASA?

Bozo 08-15-2012 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 1245590)
Please, i don't pretend to know ****, i hate the job so Im pretty far from being that guy. But i do know Pbs is out to hurt you.

Then you should look for another job.

It will if you do not have control or more control than management.

Bozo 08-15-2012 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 1245604)
Bozo,

It was an honest question. If you have insight or suggestions I would love to read them. If you're going to state the obvious and insult us then please move. I'm simply to burnt on all this BS to argue.

TC

If you are really wanting to learn about PBS I will be more than happy to give you some insight.

Almost every PBS system out there, Navtec, Carmen and many others are not true seniority based systems. They are called Globalized systems. Flightline is the only true seniority based system.

Talk to the guys at VA, they use Flightline.

The important thing is to learn how the system works. After more than a year I am still finding different ways to do the same task in PBS and it just improves the end result.

RJ Pilot 08-15-2012 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1245616)
Letter from AEPA. He makes some really good points..

CRJ's 700-900?? Shhweeet!

buddies8 08-15-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1245882)
CRJ's 700-900?? Shhweeet!

At half the price, yes sweet as you say, not.

buddies8 08-15-2012 07:38 AM

Following are quotes from another forum--AIP is Agreement in Principle--appears to be a different name but does the same as a TA

---If the AIP was reasonable and fair to the American Eagle pilots, even during the bankruptcy, it would not be necessary to threaten the American Eagle pilots.

It has been reported to the AEPA that ALPA MEC member and MIA Council Representative Peter Wallace has told American Eagle pilots that if the pilots do not agree to the Tentative Agreement (derived from the AIP) management has stated thatit will "liquidate" American Eagle Airlines.

AS the AEPA has previously stated, when ALPA and management determine that the American Eagle pilots will not roll over or bend over, the threats and intimidation will begin. MIA ALPA Representative Peter Wallace has already begun to threaten the American Eagle pilots.


---The SJU rep has recently stated that the union find out where some pilots are getting there accurate information and have those pilots fired. This the same rep that was drunk and passed out during the last MEC teleconference.

DR is upset that the AE pilots are getting accurate information that is being hidden from them.

The MEC told the LEC's that the vote on the AIP was just that, a vote on principle but TG now is saying that the AIP is the same as the TA. In other words the LEC's were told they are not voting on a TA and are now being told that the vote on the AIP was a vote for the TA.

Rumors has it also that the F/O rep in ORD has used his position to network with Delta ALPA leaders to gain a position at DAL as an instructor. The F/O rep in ORD loyalties are not for the pilots at AE but to guaranteeing his position at DAL. He should resign effective immediately.

VOTE NO
TAKE IT TO THE JUDGE
TEAM TONY RESIGN NOW

RJ Pilot 08-15-2012 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1245951)
At half the price, yes sweet as you say, not.

Hey, better than nothing.

samballs 08-15-2012 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1245966)
Hey, better than nothing.

I hope you're kidding.

200Driver 08-15-2012 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1245882)
CRJ's 700-900?? Shhweeet!


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1245966)
Hey, better than nothing.

You really should have your SJS problem looked at.

Based purely on a Buisness to Employee relationship, employees approving a contract while the company is in bankruptcy ALWAYS benefits the company and not the employees. You would be far better off negotiating out of bankruptcy. Basic Buisness 101.


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