Originally Posted by CaptainCarl

Hey, hey, hey, some of us aren't willing to live in a van down by the river. Nothing less than a cabin with at least a stove and an internet connection for me

Originally Posted by Erdude32

There shouldn't be ANY Regional Captain's making over $50-60K a year...THAT'S the problem! The Lifer's who are pulling in the 120K a year, doing OE, running the simms and monopolizing the MEC's.....THEY are the problem! The Regionals were NEVER meant to be a career stop, but it's morphed into that situation. Why is there 15 and 20 yr payscales at some of the Regionals and NEVER at the Majors (except Fredex). It's because the lifers who are entrenched in your MEC's and Negotiating comittees are running the show and tossing the Jr Fo's under the bus to enrich thier career decisions. I won't even go into how many of the lifers are stuck there due to lack of a degree, credit ratings, dui's and checkride bust's. So, they get stuck at the regional and try and make it as best for them as they can...because the CAN'T/WON'T move on.

You guys want to make your industry more stable and a better QOL? Vote the Sr. guys OFF the MEC's and Neg commitees. Stop your payscales at yr 8 or 10, max vacation 2 weeks. Take no company match in 401k's. Make your Company as Cheap to run as possible. GET IN GET OUT.

For any RJ FO that's been sitting around the last 5 years waiting on an upgrade and PIC time....you are fooling yourself and screwing up your career. If you continue to wait for it, rather than making it happen you are going to miss the next hiring wave, or be at the end of it and be perpetually JR the rest of your career....which will result in a frustrating career of reserve and narrow body equipment. QUIT now! Go Expat to ANY turbine PIC job you can find. Go to India, fly turbo props...Africa, Japan, China...wherever. I'm not saying go to Emerites to sit in the right seat for 3-4 years....Go find a LEFT seat job, they are out there. Do it for a year to 18 mos and then come back here to a Major. The guys you are pulling gear for now will still be at the Regional they are now. They will still be miserable and they will still be looking for a way to throw YOU under the bus for more $$$.

Originally Posted by Erdude32

There shouldn't be ANY Regional Captain's making over $50-60K a year...THAT'S the problem! The Lifer's who are pulling in the 120K a year, doing OE, running the simms and monopolizing the MEC's.....THEY are the problem! The Regionals were NEVER meant to be a career stop, but it's morphed into that situation. Why is there 15 and 20 yr payscales at some of the Regionals and NEVER at the Majors (except Fredex). It's because the lifers who are entrenched in your MEC's and Negotiating comittees are running the show and tossing the Jr Fo's under the bus to enrich thier career decisions. I won't even go into how many of the lifers are stuck there due to lack of a degree, credit ratings, dui's and checkride bust's. So, they get stuck at the regional and try and make it as best for them as they can...because the CAN'T/WON'T move on.

You guys want to make your industry more stable and a better QOL? Vote the Sr. guys OFF the MEC's and Neg commitees. Stop your payscales at yr 8 or 10, max vacation 2 weeks. Take no company match in 401k's. Make your Company as Cheap to run as possible. GET IN GET OUT.

For any RJ FO that's been sitting around the last 5 years waiting on an upgrade and PIC time....you are fooling yourself and screwing up your career. If you continue to wait for it, rather than making it happen you are going to miss the next hiring wave, or be at the end of it and be perpetually JR the rest of your career....which will result in a frustrating career of reserve and narrow body equipment. QUIT now! Go Expat to ANY turbine PIC job you can find. Go to India, fly turbo props...Africa, Japan, China...wherever. I'm not saying go to Emerites to sit in the right seat for 3-4 years....Go find a LEFT seat job, they are out there. Do it for a year to 18 mos and then come back here to a Major. The guys you are pulling gear for now will still be at the Regional they are now. They will still be miserable and they will still be looking for a way to throw YOU under the bus for more $$$.

Originally Posted by trip

Quote from ERdude32 in the Gulfstream thread,

"Soooo, back to the venerable 1900. I actually miss the flying, all hands on and fun. Nothing like being at 9000' abeam the numbers in the downwind at MIA and being cleared for a visual and "can you keep it short?"....most fun you can legally have in 121 ops., or cranking it in over the Boca Chica channel at 400' keeping clear of NAS Key West airspace and rolling out lined up with 27 at Key West.... Or how about....awe it was all good. I like my gig in the 767 now, but if they'd pay me the same to fly the 1900 and be home every night I'd be in heaven. "

Ba Ha Ha! So says the Gulfstream Captain? Which is it ERdud?

Originally Posted by IBPilot

ZING!!! right on Trip. Blame the senior guys for the crappy industry, even though he took a PFT (pay to fly passengers more like it) at GIA.....and openly says he'd be happy as a senior CA on a 1900 for really really good pay, hogging that CA seat....hypocritical, no? Definition of "me" generation.

Originally Posted by pilot0987

You gotta take it easy bro, I can see you running down the aisle now. Take a deep breath, then push the seatbelt sign on and feel important again.

Originally Posted by IBPilot

My seatbelt sign flips, doesn't push . And running? You haven't seen how out of shape I'm in due to senior guys hogging my good lifestyle