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johnso29 10-07-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1273001)
I agree he should have followed the rules, but I really hope this goes to trial. It will be interesting to see the government deny someone the ability to earn a living just because of an arbitrary age limit, not because they are no longer qualified to do their job.

It's the law. It doesn't matter if you think it's stupid. It's still the law. If he broke the law, he deserves a trial and appropriate punishment.

Moonwolf 10-07-2012 05:20 PM

How about egl taking some of the hit for this. I mean, they employed him to begin with. Did they not know his age before hand?

80ktsClamp 10-07-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1273136)
How about egl taking some of the hit for this. I mean, they employed him to begin with. Did they not know his age before hand?

You're right... they probably should have taken a sample from his trunk and counted the rings. :D

FlyingKat 10-07-2012 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1273098)
Really? So if someone murdered a loved one of your's, you wouldn't seek justice? I mean after all, you can't control that. So don't cry over it. :rolleyes:

I've had a loved one murdered in cold blood. A job is nothing compared to the loss of that. You have no class. And yes, I sought justice and the guy is on death row right now.

FlyingKat 10-07-2012 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1273100)
It's the law. It doesn't matter if you think it's stupid. It's still the law. If he broke the law, he deserves a trial and appropriate punishment.

And just like other stupid laws legalizing discrimination, this law will be gone soon as well. What I said was it will be interesting to see a government prosecutor get in front of a jury and defend age discrimination. Not that I expect to see it happen. Government lawyers aren't stupid and they know how to win cases. They'll make this guy an offer he would be stupid to refuse, and this will quietly go away.

johnso29 10-07-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1273147)
I've had a loved one murdered in cold blood. A job is nothing compared to the loss of that. You have no class. And yes, I sought justice and the guy is on death row right now.

But you can't control it, so by your logic it's nothing to "whine and cry" about. Right?

johnso29 10-07-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1273149)
And just like other stupid laws legalizing discrimination, this law will be gone soon as well. What I said was it will be interesting to see a government prosecutor get in front of a jury and defend age discrimination. Not that I expect to see it happen. Government lawyers aren't stupid and they know how to win cases. They'll make this guy an offer he would be stupid to refuse, and this will quietly go away.

There isn't age discrimination to defend. The trial wouldn't be about age discrimination. It'd be about falsification of legal documentation and lying to a federal agency.

I'm glad you're confident it'll be gone soon, considering the entire reason Age 65 occured was to align with ICAO standards.

2bennySODC6 10-07-2012 05:56 PM

If it can be proven that he lied, then maybe some type of punishment would be warranted. Five years in a "pound your @#!" facility seems a little harsh. Did he endanger the flying public, I mean was there an incident or accident? I don't understand why people are so fast to throw the book at this guy. The airline industry has seen better times, life is difficult right now but why take your slow progression to the left seat out on a 69 year old pilot who wanted to stay in the cockpit a few more years? He's already been dismissed, I'm sure your upgrade is around the corner.

johnso29 10-07-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6 (Post 1273154)
If it can be proven that he lied, then maybe some type of punishment would be warranted. Five years in a "pound your @#!" facility seems a little harsh. Did he endanger the flying public, I mean was there an incident or accident? I don't understand why people are so fast to throw the book at this guy. The airline industry has seen better times, life is difficult right now but why take your slow progression to the left seat out on a 69 year old pilot who wanted to stay in the cockpit a few more years? He's already been dismissed, I'm sure your upgrade is around the corner.


Because a requirement to be issued an ATP is to be of good moral character. If someone falsifies documentation and lies to a federal agency to benefit themselves, they certainly haven't maintained that.

FlyingKat 10-07-2012 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1273151)
But you can't control it, so by your logic it's nothing to "whine and cry" about. Right?

Once again, to compare what happens to a loved one being murdered, to a job shows how utterly tasteless, classless, and ignorant you are. Nothing compares to the destruction of a human life and all the pain and damage it causes to those that experience such a loss, particularly murder. To compare this to murder is about as stupid as it gets. Grow up and get a clue.


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