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Starscream 10-09-2012 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1274233)
Can you quote it from the TA?? Did you look at the TA?? You sure that it does not have caps on carry over????
I cannot quote it, and even so, there'd be nothing I could do about it now. I'm not the only one in this boat. The company would be flirting with a heavy sick-out during the holidays if they f'd with this. I'm pretty sure this was not even on the table.

I'm sure they also realize not everyone realistically plans to 'blow' all their PTO time on a big get-away. It would suck to come back, break both legs in a car crash, and then have no sick/PTO left. For those who have lots saved, it might mean an extra week or so of VAC.

There is a one time reduction of 21hrs contribution to the PTO for 2013, though. Don't know if that applies to a certain seniority, but that right there is a hit.

ysslah 10-09-2012 06:26 PM
And ALPA said pattern bargaining is good... :eek:

lakehouse 10-09-2012 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1274241)
I cannot quote it, and even so, there'd be nothing I could do about it now. I'm not the only one in this boat. The company would be flirting with a heavy sick-out during the holidays if they f'd with this. I'm pretty sure this was not even on the table.

I'm sure they also realize not everyone realistically plans to 'blow' all their PTO time on a big get-away. It would suck to come back, break both legs in a car crash, and then have no sick/PTO left. For those who have lots saved, it might mean an extra week or so of VAC.

There is a one time reduction of 21hrs contribution to the PTO for 2013, though. Don't know if that applies to a certain seniority, but that right there is a hit.
maybe the company and union just have been relying that noone knows or understands it, and by the time they do it will already be in effect.

buddies8 10-09-2012 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1274241)
I cannot quote it, and even so, there'd be nothing I could do about it now. I'm not the only one in this boat. The company would be flirting with a heavy sick-out during the holidays if they f'd with this. I'm pretty sure this was not even on the table.

I'm sure they also realize not everyone realistically plans to 'blow' all their PTO time on a big get-away. It would suck to come back, break both legs in a car crash, and then have no sick/PTO left. For those who have lots saved, it might mean an extra week or so of VAC.

There is a one time reduction of 21hrs contribution to the PTO for 2013, though. Don't know if that applies to a certain seniority, but that right there is a hit.
then i would suggest to get short and long term disability to fill the void of pto.

Aviatrx 10-10-2012 01:37 PM
I think its funny that so many people claime they will fly a cessna 172 if it paid well. Well here you go, we have pay banding. ;)

Starscream 10-10-2012 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1274208)
Do you care to quote the language how your sick time will roll over??? How do you plan on using besides one giant sick call?? Are you sure you will not have caps on your time?
Just found it:

Section 8: Personal Time Off -- Sec II Paragraph A.2

'Upon implementation, all hours in a pilot's regular sick bank will be deposited into the pilot's PTO bank.'

PilotJ3 10-10-2012 03:04 PM
I think its funny that so many people claime they will fly a cessna 172 if it paid well. Well here you go, we have pay banding. ;)
I used to Fly a 172 for $200 a day. I used to do that flight 10 times a month. That's $2,000 + about $800 for cfiing = $2,800 a month. I was home every night, weekends off and with a lot of free time.

Career progression in equipment, not pay and QOL. But with almost no multi engine, turbine or transport cat I had to move.

LineHolder 10-14-2012 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1274177)
I'm ok with PTO, since I'm going to have just ridiculous amount saved up from not calling sick all these years.
I'm sure that had nothing to do with the intimidation from the Chief Pilots office:cool: I remember those a wholes would make you stop by the office, pull out the stupid 'book' to record your sick call, and have a round table meeting if you had 4 in a year. Complete nonsense. It's YOUR time, use it or lose it

snippercr 10-14-2012 05:02 AM
Originally Posted by LineHolder (Post 1276736)
I'm sure that had nothing to do with the intimidation from the Chief Pilots office:cool: I remember those a wholes would make you stop by the office, pull out the stupid 'book' to record your sick call, and have a round table meeting if you had 4 in a year. Complete nonsense. It's YOUR time, use it or lose it
Its your time, use it when YOU want to!

QuagmireGiggity 10-14-2012 04:39 PM
A lot of tough talk from the no crowd. I think even the no voters wanted this to pass.
Voted Yes.


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