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Old 11-09-2006, 06:21 AM
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Due to increasing interest in this division, ExpressJet intends to dedicate an additional 5 aircraft to this fleet, bringing the total corporate aviation fleet count to 15. ExpressJet continues to evaluate other opportunities for the remaining aircraft that will be withdrawn from the company's capacity purchase agreement with Continental Airlines, including flying aircraft on behalf of either a U.S. carrier or foreign carrier and branded flying.
OK, so a month and a half remains until the flying is transferred to Chautauqua and the company still doesn't have an idea what it is doing with the 54 (69 minus 15) aircraft?

How much will "branded" flying weigh on the operation? Why even attept to do branded flying with RJ's? We know how that ended up last time it was tried.
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It seems as though they are holding off on that one as long as possible. I think XJT would rather supplement than try their own branded flying. Apparently there was supposed to be a "big" announcement yesterday during the 3rd quarter press conference. As far as I know, NOTHING new was announced. Nothing was even mentioned about the 25 a/c going south of the border, though it is posted on this site. That was strongly reflected by the stock price dropping about 18 percent since yesterday's alleged "big announcement". I am not trying to be pessimistic, but really am starting to wonder myself. But then again they could turn around next week send the a/c to Aviacsa and supplement flying for Delta out of CVG and LAX. Who knows?
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I think the big reason that there was no huge annoucment is that we bid on both the Delta and Frontier flying from what I have heard, and I view it as a positive sign that the planes are not going to Aviacsia. The planes would have been going, but not the pilots...
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does anyone know exactly what/how many routes are going to CHQ?
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OK, so a month and a half remains until the flying is transferred to Chautauqua and the company still doesn't have an idea what it is doing with the 54 (69 minus 15) aircraft?

How much will "branded" flying weigh on the operation? Why even attept to do branded flying with RJ's? We know how that ended up last time it was tried.
I guess you haven't taken into account that we're removing between 3 to 10 rj's per month. We got time, just wait the other shoe will drop soon.

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Is it just me, or does it seem like fosters has an ax to grind with XJT...hmmm.... And yes, the numbers I have heard for withdrawal of aircraft from CAL service is 2-3 per month. Do the math, its gonna take a looooong time for those aircraft to trickle away. In the meantime, attrition will more or less take care of whatever aircraft completely leave the fleet so the loss will not be noticed by the pilot group. Especially the guys flying the charters making $52/hr as 2nd year FOs *drools*
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Is it just me, or does it seem like fosters has an ax to grind with XJT
LOL no ax to grind. I never even applied to Express Jet. Too bid a company for me.

Keep in mind I say the same things about my own company. I just like to give people stuff to think about. Reality sucks when it hits .

In the meantime, attrition will more or less take care of whatever aircraft completely leave the fleet so the loss will not be noticed by the pilot group
Except for those hired now or just recently hired who will be on reserve for a long time and those FO's wanting to upgrade...
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And yes, the numbers I have heard for withdrawal of aircraft from CAL service is 2-3 per month. Do the math, [sic] its [sic] gonna take a looooong [sic] time for those aircraft to trickle away.
I've heard the same recently, but a question: Wasn't the original plan for the withdrawal to be complete by JUL07? Has that now changed to FEB08-OCT09 ( ), "doing the math"?
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I've heard the same recently, but a question: Wasn't the original plan for the withdrawal to be complete by JUL07? Has that now changed to FEB08-OCT09 ( ), "doing the math"?
That jives with what I heard originally. I think the issues with CHQ starting service combined with CAL increasing XJT's block hours may have something to do with it. Word of warning: everything I have heard is anecdotal and second hand. Nothing from official sources. But when everyone is hearing the same rumors it makes me start to wonder.
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