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djrogs03 11-29-2012 09:42 AM

Dear Delta,

Tell us something we didn't already know!

~The Pinnacle Pilot Group

DryMotorBoatin 11-29-2012 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 1301502)
Negotiating Committee Update

Management advised the Negotiating Committee that it has received new information from Delta concerning our future fleet plan. If we are able to come to terms on a Restructuring Agreement that amends the JCBA, it is anticipated that the 200 fleet will begin to shrink sometime next year, and that we may be in position to gain additional CRJ-900 aircraft. If we are unable to reach agreement on revisions to the JCBA, we have been told that Pinnacle will wind down, and that our flying will be taken over by other carriers who have already been selected by Delta.

In order to assess the impact of these forecast revisions to the fleet plan, both the ALPA and management negotiating teams have decided to work internally for the next several days. We are currently planning to return to the bargaining table next week.

We do not believe that the projected fleet plan changes mean that there is no future for Pinnacle, but we do believe that it is highly likely that Pinnacle will experience a reduction in its overall fleet size. This is important information for you to have, especially as some of you consider the wisdom of bidding on a Long Term Leave or consider what other employment options might be available to you.

The Negotiating Committee is in close contact with the MEC, and continues to work on formulating proposals that address the needs of the company and the needs of our pilots in an uncertain environment.


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Gojet smells blood.

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Farmlover 11-29-2012 10:09 AM

The GoJet guys are having a party today!!

Geardownflaps30 11-29-2012 10:10 AM

"Pinnacle". The Comair sequel.

(Taking concessions never got Comair a single additional aircraft. In spite of what MAY have been promised. Good Luck.)

Noseeums 11-29-2012 10:25 AM

"You may receive additional -900 growth...."

All the while we're presently losing -900 airframes ahead of schedule.


HMMMMMmmmmm.

meesq 11-29-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1301568)
"Pinnacle". The Comair sequel.

(Taking concessions never got Comair a single additional aircraft. In spite of what MAY have been promised. Good Luck.)


Exactly. You will take concessions and no additional flying will come your way. Take a good look at Comair history folks and play accordingly. Get your apps in everything you can think of, but, please try to stay away from [insert infamous bottom feeder airline here].
Good luck guys - you're going to need it.
And don't forget to give your fellow "brothers" at DALPA credit for the shifting of ALPA jobs to the non-union crap ones. I like to give credit where it's due.

Silver02ex 11-29-2012 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 1301576)
"You may receive additional -900 growth...."

All the while we're presently losing -900 airframes ahead of schedule.


HMMMMMmmmmm.

Maybe they want to get rid of some 200's at Skywest quicker? It's not like those airplanes are going there without Delta getting anything in return. My guess, we'll get a new contract and we lose a bunch of 200's and gain some 900's.

amcnd 11-29-2012 11:15 AM

My guess is 9E could get 35 -900's and drop 90-100 200's. If you play ball.... Still a loss but.....

JetBlast77 11-29-2012 11:20 AM

If the proposed concessions are agreed to, it will cripple the standard for compensation at the regionals. Do you really think it's worth that to gain 35 or so airplanes? It will drive down pay everywhere.

Plus why would Delta just take all their 900s away just to give them some back?

UCLAbruins 11-29-2012 11:26 AM

The commuters that have the Lowest labor costs and can agree to contracts that greatly benefit the majors will be around for a while

The commuters that don't agree to concessions but instead choose to offer their pilots a "pilot career", with decent pay and benefits won't be able to survive.

Truly a race to the bottom


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