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JetBlast77 11-29-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by UCLAbruins (Post 1301629)
The commuters that have the Lowest labor costs and can agree to contracts that greatly benefit the majors will be around for a while

The commuters that don't agree to concessions but instead choose to offer their pilots a "pilot career", with decent pay and benefits won't be able to survive.

Truly a race to the bottom

So you don't think Skywest will make it? They just got awarded a bunch more 76 seaters in addition to a contract with AA.

tom14cat14 11-29-2012 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1301632)
So you don't think Skywest will make it? They just got awarded a bunch more 76 seaters in addition to a contract with AA.

They will make it for a few years. And then their turn will come to take pay cuts.

What 11-29-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1301632)
So you don't think Skywest will make it? They just got awarded a bunch more 76 seaters in addition to a contract with AA.

But how many 50 seaters will be taken out of the system as the 76 seaters come online?

Diesel450 11-29-2012 11:44 AM

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Will 11-29-2012 11:50 AM

How long will it take to wind us down?

Truman_Sparks 11-29-2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by UCLAbruins (Post 1301629)
The commuters that have the Lowest labor costs and can agree to contracts that greatly benefit the majors will be around for a while

The commuters that don't agree to concessions but instead choose to offer their pilots a "pilot career", with decent pay and benefits won't be able to survive.

Truly a race to the bottom

Quick question................whats a "commuter"????

UCLAbruins 11-29-2012 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks (Post 1301675)
Quick question................whats a "commuter"????

Is that what you want to talk about, my definition of commuter?

Diver Driver 11-29-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1301568)
"Pinnacle". The Comair sequel.

(Taking concessions never got Comair a single additional aircraft. In spite of what MAY have been promised. Good Luck.)

Exactly! I know it's tough guys. I lived through the Comair mess. Don't make our mistakes, if margins are so tight that concessions make the difference between sink or swim, the company's problems are larger than that and can't be saved anyway. Don't give in; full pay till the last day!

StrikeTime 11-29-2012 12:28 PM

Well somebody just had to say it, didn't they?

Inb4 the lock.

Purple Drank 11-29-2012 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by meesq (Post 1301601)
And don't forget to give your fellow "brothers" at DALPA credit for the shifting of ALPA jobs to the non-union crap ones. I like to give credit where it's due.

What exactly should DALPA and Delta pilots have done to prevent this unfortunate situation? Should they have attempted to negotiate a guarantee of Pinnacle's everlasting viability? :confused:

I'm not aware of any contract in which mainline pilots have negotiated a say in who is chosen to do the outsourced flying. That would be ridiculous.


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