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Old 12-02-2012 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
The idea is that one group gets a good contract! Then another group points to that contract as leverage for a better contract. Then repeat with the next group. We all have to try to build off each other.
Hi. Have you heard of the 20,000 man race to 1000tpic?

You may not think it is important, i would agree, but the race is real and is what drives the current regional industry. Pattern bargaining cannot exist at our level, but i guess that is just like my opinion, man.
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Old 12-02-2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Hi. Have you heard of the 20,000 man race to 1000tpic?

You may not think it is important, i would agree, but the race is real and is what drives the current regional industry. Pattern bargaining cannot exist at our level, but i guess that is just like my opinion, man.
Fair point. Fair point indeed.
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Old 12-02-2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickBateman
Here's the entire GoJet pilot group at the moment

G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?
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Old 12-02-2012 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?
quick upgrade, i hear it happens while in initial indoc, who cares if you dont make much money! SJS and the chase man! Industry standards....piff who cares about QOL, million man race to 1,000 TPIC (while living in the ghetto eating ramen noodles while trying not to get fired...)
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Old 12-02-2012 | 07:29 PM
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Their upgrade minimums require 4000 TT. That was why they are hiring captains off the street because their FOs do not meet that time.
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Old 12-02-2012 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?

Going to gojet?


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Old 12-02-2012 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?
I'm sure at the job fairs they are feeding guys the 'you'll guarantee to upgrade quicker' line. Besides, aren't their jets so shiny!
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Old 12-03-2012 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
I'm sure at the job fairs they are feeding guys the 'you'll guarantee to upgrade quicker' line. Besides, aren't their jets so shiny!
Aren't most of them ex Comair birds? If so they aren't very shiny anymore.
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Old 12-03-2012 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Aren't most of them ex Comair birds? If so they aren't very shiny anymore.
The whole DCI fleet at GoJet is ex-Comair airplanes, some of them did a stint at ASA after Comair. A good chunk of the pilot group is ex-Comair as well, SJS died a lonnggg time ago for us.
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Old 12-03-2012 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Will:1302991
Just leave the industry if the grass is greener on the other side of your fence. For everybody who thinks shutting this place down will change the regional industry you are wrong.

I propose that all the pilots who work at a substandard regional airline just quit. Do it for us, make your own point lose your job that would help us. But nobody will do that. Pilots working at those places put us in this position. We raised the bar you guys lowered it, and now you want us to fall on the sword.

The regional have changed for a long time. Gone are the days of staying at a regional for life. Closing the doors will do nothing unless all the bottom feeder regional pilots have the balls just to quit.

I talked to my rep and suggest all 9E pilots call them if they have questions the e-mails don't answer. It's a bad situation but one I believe we will get through with deep cuts. We will fight another day when the industry changes again. In closing if you are a pilot working at a bottom feeder regional look in the mirror and ask yourself have you helped the industry or hurt by taking a job where ever you work.
I love the we will fight another day when the industry changes again comment. When indiustry was changed you were in section 6 for a looooong time; only to get a ta when industry changed again. You have the record on the longest negotistions in the regional world. I just your concessions come with some cola after your concessionary contract becomes amedable another 9 years.

Also, i know this is going to sound harsh but your airlines grew in expense of the other airlines likr mesaba aca comair. I love it when you think you raised the bar.
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