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Mesabah 12-01-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1303066)
The idea is that one group gets a good contract! Then another group points to that contract as leverage for a better contract. Then repeat with the next group. We all have to try to build off each other.

That only works for mainline, in the regional business it's kill or be killed.

johnso29 12-01-2012 10:07 AM

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Helperto EL 12-01-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1301794)
This is not limited to aviation. It's business, & it sucks. Outsourcing to the lowest labor cost to maximize profit is a cancer that exists in many, many occupations.

Actully I have to disagree, most companies do take care of there employees, especially if they are needed. This industry is no the norm. Yes there are a few others (companies)that do the same but most give some kind of a severance. Ready for unemployment, yes we should be and we should always have a backup.

80ktsClamp 12-01-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1302924)
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't Canton in OH? Akron/Canton or something? Or is there one in MI too?

It's a nice suburb of DTW. Met my wife there! :D

johnso29 12-01-2012 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Helperto EL (Post 1303086)
Actully I have to disagree, most companies do take care of there employees, especially if they are needed. This industry is no the norm. Yes there are a few others (companies)that do the same but most give some kind of a severance. Ready for unemployment, yes we should be and we should always have a backup.

Do they? I know an individual who works for Verizon. His position was being eliminated, but he was offered a higher paying position on the condition he would move. He said he could not move because he couldn't sell his house. They said no problem, we'll buy it for you. They offered around $50K less then the mortgage payoff. So unless he went upside down on his house, he was out of a job. No severance, no sorry. Nothing.

My mother works in our local school district. The district superintendent couldn't get taxes raised, nor could he get schoolworkers to bite on concessions. So he just laid off 20 people. They get nothing. The superintendent does however get another secretary, & he's not taking a paycut. The list goes on.

WIFlyer 12-01-2012 11:03 AM

9E is finished, I actually thought that it wouldn't last until the end of the year. I guess I am happy for the extra time. I am resigned to that fact and no, I don't hold I'll will towards the DAL pilot group. My wife told me to always look on the bright side of things which I am finally doing. We might be in for some hard times but with a positive attitude and hard work I think the future is still bright. I have worked with some great people here and I wish everyone good luck in the post Pinnacle world.

I just thought we all needed a little positivity here.

Ultralight 12-01-2012 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by WIFlyer (Post 1303108)
9E is finished, I actually thought that it wouldn't last until the end of the year. I guess I am happy for the extra time. I am resigned to that fact and no, I don't hold I'll will towards the DAL pilot group. My wife told me to always look on the bright side of things which I am finally doing. We might be in for some hard times but with a positive attitude and hard work I think the future is still bright. I have worked with some great people here and I wish everyone good luck in the post Pinnacle world.

I just thought we all needed a little positivity here.

Good attitude to have. It sucks right now and everyone at Pinnacle has a right to be angry, but one door closes, another door opens. Dust yourself off and get back on the horse. There is going to be alot of movement over the next few years.

PatrickBateman 12-02-2012 07:01 AM

Here's the entire GoJet pilot group at the moment

http://i.imgur.com/4TTVa.gif

ShyGuy 12-02-2012 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickBateman (Post 1303513)
Here's the entire GoJet pilot group at the moment

http://i.imgur.com/4TTVa.gif

Was Pinnacle any different when 129 CRJ-200s were awarded in the 2000-2001 era and mainline NWA DC9s and 727s were parked?

I still can't understand one regional pilot trying to talk smack down on another regional airline. Their airline hasn't done anything your airline didn't do already, which is fly outsourced routes at a cheaper cost. In any case, GoJets pilots today consist of furloughee United pilots, and tons of other regional airline pilots, including Comair. Go tell a 10 year Comair FO at GoJets that he is rubbing his hands in glee at the 9E announcements.

Jeffdh17 12-02-2012 10:04 AM

One word....Comair......good luck boys and girls.


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