Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1303066)

The idea is that one group gets a good contract! Then another group points to that contract as leverage for a better contract. Then repeat with the next group. We all have to try to build off each other.

Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 1303617)

Hi. Have you heard of the 20,000 man race to 1000tpic?

You may not think it is important, i would agree, but the race is real and is what drives the current regional industry. Pattern bargaining cannot exist at our level, but i guess that is just like my opinion, man.

Originally Posted by PatrickBateman (Post 1303513)

Here's the entire GoJet pilot group at the moment

http://i.imgur.com/4TTVa.gif

Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1303851)

G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?

Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1303851)

G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?

Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1303851)

G*J!#*s may pick up more airframes, but I honestly think they will have a hard time staffing them. Even the "preferred" regionals are struggling to fill classes right now. Some are even offering $5,000 for your signature.

If you had your 1,500 hours and a clean record, why in the world would you "GO" there?

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1303927)

I'm sure at the job fairs they are feeding guys the 'you'll guarantee to upgrade quicker' line. Besides, aren't their jets so shiny!

Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1303966)

Aren't most of them ex Comair birds? If so they aren't very shiny anymore.

Originally Posted by Will:1302991

Just leave the industry if the grass is greener on the other side of your fence. For everybody who thinks shutting this place down will change the regional industry you are wrong.

I propose that all the pilots who work at a substandard regional airline just quit. Do it for us, make your own point lose your job that would help us. But nobody will do that. Pilots working at those places put us in this position. We raised the bar you guys lowered it, and now you want us to fall on the sword.

The regional have changed for a long time. Gone are the days of staying at a regional for life. Closing the doors will do nothing unless all the bottom feeder regional pilots have the balls just to quit.

I talked to my rep and suggest all 9E pilots call them if they have questions the e-mails don't answer. It's a bad situation but one I believe we will get through with deep cuts. We will fight another day when the industry changes again. In closing if you are a pilot working at a bottom feeder regional look in the mirror and ask yourself have you helped the industry or hurt by taking a job where ever you work.