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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Piedmonster
TA Passed = No Self worth

Criticize me for throwing stones, I speak with the experience of having been furloughed, and I've left a miserable and failing regional for another regional.
We barely could make the most minimal of ends meet for nearly 2 years (year 1 pay and recovering from year 1 pay).
I know how hard it is. With some terrible life circumstances along the way. Thrashed our savings, and did damage to credit, and had serious medical issues put off (family) because of lack of health care coverage.

I would have voted this POS TA down at the cost of my job and I'm the sole source in my family. Me, wife, kid, 2 cats.

Screw whether the other regional or the majors hiring or not. If you can't go get a job outside aviation (whether you have no other skill set, or you're too lazy too, you're a fool and shouldn't be doing this job.)


Also, I have no degree, and I have my own small business totally unrelated to aviation that I nurtured so as to have a backup plan. Basically, I'm not uber qualified with a degree (or flight training) my parents paid for. I've clawed my way through it all on my own. So unless you pulled yourself up by the bootstraps from day one, I've got no sympathy for F'ing up things for other people because "you have no choice".

Bottom line, no backup plan = stupidity.
Voting yes on this TA = no dignity.

Make better choices in life, and be willing to accept the consequences when your decisions are bad. This business is unforgiving, and if you don't have a backup plan, or are not prepared for the worst, you're a fool.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Be ready to walk the walk. Skywest is next.
No. Skywest is going to be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:19 AM
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There's a very real possibility that Delta won't hire any pilots until 2015. They have already said no hiring this year. When Delta does start hiring, only 144 Pinnacle pilots per year can flow up. I am guessing half the pilots that interview will not get the job. This will push that 144 down the list further. My point is there are Pinnacle pilots that might now have the chance for their preferred interview for the next 5-10 years. That's a long time to work under these horrible new pay scales. I am guessing the actual furlough amount will be nowhere nearly as bad as projected. Pilots will start jumping ship to other airlines when they start realizing how long it's going to take to get that interview.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmosdrvr
Then come and get it TROLL.

If standing on my neck makes you feel better about yourself go right ahead. Now I will go fling poo on the "Major " board about how I am happy to fly mainline routes for B scale pay while I thumb my nose at ALPA.
I was making a point to all those who think they're better then the Pinacle NO voters. It's factual information straight from the Skywest 10-K. You're welcome to call me a troll all you wish, but it doesn't change the 10-K.

The rest of your comment speaks for itself. How mature of you.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmosdrvr
No. Skywest is going to be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.
That's what Pam Am pilots said. No one is immune, including Delta. Live in reality.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
There's a very real possibility that Delta won't hire any pilots until 2015. They have already said no hiring this year. When Delta does start hiring, only 144 Pinnacle pilots per year can flow up. I am guessing half the pilots that interview will not get the job. This will push that 144 down the list further. My point is there are Pinnacle pilots that might now have the chance for their preferred interview for the next 5-10 years. That's a long time to work under these horrible new pay scales. I am guessing the actual furlough amount will be nowhere nearly as bad as projected. Pilots will start jumping ship to other airlines when they start realizing how long it's going to take to get that interview.

They have not said NO hiring this year. Ed Bastian did say Delta doesn't anticipate needing hire. No one from Delta management said Delta won't hire this year.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:33 AM
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In the pilot selection link on DeltaNet it states. Delta is not currently interviewing or hiring pilots. We anticipate that hiring will resume in 2013 but no date has been set. Just read it again 10 seconds before I posted this.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I was making a point to all those who think they're better then the Pinacle NO voters. It's factual information straight from the Skywest 10-K. You're welcome to call me a troll all you wish, but it doesn't change the 10-K.

The rest of your comment speaks for itself. How mature of you.
Only slightly less mature than a Delta pilot exaulting the demise of the regional airlines on a forum meant for those regional pilots.

I took no part in criticizing the Pinnacle guys, we all chase airplanes none of us are any better than the other. Some are just more lucky. They had a raw deal forced on them by Delta and had no choice but to take it.

As far as living in reality. 13 years of musical regionals made have left me a little jaded. I will say again though Skywest is going to be just fine.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Taking food from your kids mouth, really? Are you guys taking pay cut? When is your company filing chap 11? We didnt take your job. If we turned this down and are all out of a job, would you care about us and how we are going to feed our kids?
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I'm supposed to work to feed YOUR kids and not MINE??! hahhahaha!!!!
Sorry honey and kid, I quit my job so there will be no food and no xmas, but Tony will sure be the man!!!!!!!!!!
Well gee whiz Einstien, ever thought that our management might tell us that since we're in Section 6, we now need to match your lowball rate? Or that maybe Delta will just transfer our airplanes and flying to you when we refuse? Ya Think? Thanks again for the cornhole guys. It won't be forgotten.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Well gee whiz Einstien, ever thought that our management might tell us that since we're in Section 6, we now need to match your lowball rate? Or that maybe Delta will just transfer our airplanes and flying to you when we refuse? Ya Think? Thanks again for the cornhole guys. It won't be forgotten.
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