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#132
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There's a very real possibility that Delta won't hire any pilots until 2015. They have already said no hiring this year. When Delta does start hiring, only 144 Pinnacle pilots per year can flow up. I am guessing half the pilots that interview will not get the job. This will push that 144 down the list further. My point is there are Pinnacle pilots that might now have the chance for their preferred interview for the next 5-10 years. That's a long time to work under these horrible new pay scales. I am guessing the actual furlough amount will be nowhere nearly as bad as projected. Pilots will start jumping ship to other airlines when they start realizing how long it's going to take to get that interview.
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The rest of your comment speaks for itself. How mature of you.
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There's a very real possibility that Delta won't hire any pilots until 2015. They have already said no hiring this year. When Delta does start hiring, only 144 Pinnacle pilots per year can flow up. I am guessing half the pilots that interview will not get the job. This will push that 144 down the list further. My point is there are Pinnacle pilots that might now have the chance for their preferred interview for the next 5-10 years. That's a long time to work under these horrible new pay scales. I am guessing the actual furlough amount will be nowhere nearly as bad as projected. Pilots will start jumping ship to other airlines when they start realizing how long it's going to take to get that interview.
They have not said NO hiring this year. Ed Bastian did say Delta doesn't anticipate needing hire. No one from Delta management said Delta won't hire this year.
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In the pilot selection link on DeltaNet it states. Delta is not currently interviewing or hiring pilots. We anticipate that hiring will resume in 2013 but no date has been set. Just read it again 10 seconds before I posted this.
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I was making a point to all those who think they're better then the Pinacle NO voters. It's factual information straight from the Skywest 10-K. You're welcome to call me a troll all you wish, but it doesn't change the 10-K.
The rest of your comment speaks for itself. How mature of you.
The rest of your comment speaks for itself. How mature of you.
I took no part in criticizing the Pinnacle guys, we all chase airplanes none of us are any better than the other. Some are just more lucky. They had a raw deal forced on them by Delta and had no choice but to take it.
As far as living in reality. 13 years of musical regionals made have left me a little jaded. I will say again though Skywest is going to be just fine.
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Well gee whiz Einstien, ever thought that our management might tell us that since we're in Section 6, we now need to match your lowball rate? Or that maybe Delta will just transfer our airplanes and flying to you when we refuse? Ya Think? Thanks again for the cornhole guys. It won't be forgotten.
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Only slightly less mature than a Delta pilot exaulting the demise of the regional airlines on a forum meant for those regional pilots.
I took no part in criticizing the Pinnacle guys, we all chase airplanes none of us are any better than the other. Some are just more lucky. They had a raw deal forced on them by Delta and had no choice but to take it.
As far as living in reality. 13 years of musical regionals made have left me a little jaded. I will say again though Skywest is going to be just fine.
I took no part in criticizing the Pinnacle guys, we all chase airplanes none of us are any better than the other. Some are just more lucky. They had a raw deal forced on them by Delta and had no choice but to take it.
As far as living in reality. 13 years of musical regionals made have left me a little jaded. I will say again though Skywest is going to be just fine.
My apologies. I made a poor attempt at conveying my original point. It was not that Skywest was the next to go BK. My initial response was to a Skywest pilot whom called the Pinnacle pilots "spineless weenies" because they approved the concessionary TA. To do so, when that individual has not been in the same situation, is out of line. Until that individual has walked in the Pinnacle pilot's shoes, he/she is nothing more then troll.(As you would call them) Same goes for the those that criticize mainline pilots for "selling scope" in BK. There are now some Pinnacle pilots who realize the reality that BK brings. To "burn it down" or "max pay until the last day" isn't such a easy choice when you have a family to consider.
Now, you can say Skywest is going to be just fine. And perhaps they will be. But you can not ensure that they will not have to comply with the current CPA which requires a rate reset in 2015, & requires Skywest to be the 2nd lowest cost DCI operator. Will that result in the need for lower labor costs? Hard to say, but the rate reset is undeniable. And if profit margins are slimming, the lower rates required due to Pinnacle's new contract could certainly place pressure on Skywest pilot's pay.
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