Originally Posted by texaspilot76

You all should have voted no on the TA and burn the place down. You have all dealt a blow to the negotiations of all your peers at other companies. The regionals are no place for an airline career. It amazes me how so many embrace it like its all they've got.

Originally Posted by Captain Tony

Thanks for nothing Pinnacle. Thanks for rear ending all of us in the segment of the industry that can least afford it. Thanks for taking food out of my kids mouths just so you can hang on a few months longer. Don't ask me for any favors.

Originally Posted by GlobeTreker

Protect us? You were already screwed. You're still screwed and you willingly took the rest of the industry down with you. Hey Gojet guys! There is a new bottom feeder in town. Enjoy your new contract. You guys deserve it.

Originally Posted by Slats

Well, in all fairness the pilots weren't responsible for mismanagement and mistakes made in Memphis. With that, 9E pilots didn't help either by voting in this TA.

All this "I'm not falling on my sword", "you all just want our flying" blah blah blah is an excuse that really shows how near sighted many of them are. I can't blame the very senior voting "yes" they're not going anywhere. The bottom 65% however, should have voted "no". They didn't for 2 reasons. Either 1, they were too lazy to get out well before this TA or 2, they were too stupid not to leave.

The "I don't want to start over at another regional" excuse is lame. Guess what? Most of them will have to make the move to another regional when furloughed anyway... Furthermore, starting over now at some of the regionals would pay more than 9Es FO top out pay. But hell, they won't see that pay scale anyway because displaced captains will enjoy the fruit of their vote.

Originally Posted by Flyformoney

What a sad day for the airline profession. The race to the bottom will never stop until regional pilots stop letting threats, fear and false hope guide them. The Pinnacle pilots have made their voice herd and Delta management agrees you are worth less.

Originally Posted by Flyformoney

What a sad day for the airline profession. The race to the bottom will never stop until regional pilots stop letting threats, fear and false hope guide them. The Pinnacle pilots have made their voice herd and Delta management agrees you are worth less.

Originally Posted by Flyformoney

What a sad day for the airline profession. The race to the bottom will never stop until regional pilots stop letting threats, fear and false hope guide them. The Pinnacle pilots have made their voice herd and Delta management agrees you are worth less.

Originally Posted by johnso29

Skywest is next. It's all part of the new plan to drive down regional costs.

Skywest is contractually obligated to be the second lowest cost operator for Delta, but Delta waived that obligation until EOY 2015:

The Delta Connection Agreements also provide that, beginning with the fifth anniversary of the execution of the agreements (September 8, 2010), Delta has the right to require that certain contractual rates under those agreements shall not exceed the second lowest of all carriers within the Delta Connection program. During the fourth quarter of 2010, SkyWest Airlines and Atlantic Southeast reached an agreement with Delta on contractual rates satisfying the 2010 rate reset provision and the second-lowest rate provision and agreed to rates through December 31, 2015. Delta additionally waived its right to require that the contractual rates payable under the Delta Connection Agreements shall not exceed the second-lowest rates of all carriers within the Delta Connection program through December 31, 2015.

Originally Posted by Piedmonster

TA Passed = No Self worth

Criticize me for throwing stones, I speak with the experience of having been furloughed, and I've left a miserable and failing regional for another regional.
We barely could make the most minimal of ends meet for nearly 2 years (year 1 pay and recovering from year 1 pay).
I know how hard it is. With some terrible life circumstances along the way. Thrashed our savings, and did damage to credit, and had serious medical issues put off (family) because of lack of health care coverage.

I would have voted this POS TA down at the cost of my job and I'm the sole source in my family. Me, wife, kid, 2 cats.

Screw whether the other regional or the majors hiring or not. If you can't go get a job outside aviation (whether you have no other skill set, or you're too lazy too, you're a fool and shouldn't be doing this job.)


Also, I have no degree, and I have my own small business totally unrelated to aviation that I nurtured so as to have a backup plan. Basically, I'm not uber qualified with a degree (or flight training) my parents paid for. I've clawed my way through it all on my own. So unless you pulled yourself up by the bootstraps from day one, I've got no sympathy for F'ing up things for other people because "you have no choice".

Bottom line, no backup plan = stupidity.
Voting yes on this TA = no dignity.

Make better choices in life, and be willing to accept the consequences when your decisions are bad. This business is unforgiving, and if you don't have a backup plan, or are not prepared for the worst, you're a fool.