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Old 01-15-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Terantious View Post
What a bunch of spineless weenies!!!

You know, it's comments like this that shows this industry's true colors. Through this whole process we never recieved one offer of help from any other MEC. So in the interest of self preservation many voted this TA in. Your comments to vote this down was not a solution to the problem we face at the regional level. What we need is solidarity between all ALPA carriers. Offers of a certain percentage integration on your seniority list would have gone a long way to show solidarity. But that wouldn't have worked either, would it? Because it would have made your company more top heavy, and delayed up-grades to selfish people like you. Your only words of encouragement were that we would be able to start over, perhaps even at your company. Well, quite frankly with the state of the industry and most of the 200's going away, that's a bigger crap shoot than what Delta offered us. Face it, we are all do contract work, and Delta is going to manage their costs for said contracts. Your comments show you as self serving, arrogant, and a person that totally lacks compassion and understanding for people going through very tough times. And then you criticize us for making this choice. I truey hope that you and your kind are the minority where you work, and that you never have to experience what we went through. But I will also say that I'm old enough to believe in karma.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Terantious View Post
What a bunch of spineless weenies!!!
Thank you.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo View Post
You know, it's comments like this that shows this industry's true colors. Through this whole process we never recieved one offer of help from any other MEC. So in the interest of self preservation many voted this TA in. Your comments to vote this down was not a solution to the problem we face at the regional level. What we need is solidarity between all ALPA carriers. Offers of a certain percentage integration on your seniority list would have gone a long way to show solidarity. But that wouldn't have worked either, would it? Because it would have made your company more top heavy, and delayed up-grades to selfish people like you. Your only words of encouragement were that we would be able to start over, perhaps even at your company. Well, quite frankly with the state of the industry and most of the 200's going away, that's a bigger crap shoot than what Delta offered us. Face it, we are all do contract work, and Delta is going to manage their costs for said contracts. Your comments show you as self serving, arrogant, and a person that totally lacks compassion and understanding for people going through very tough times. And then you criticize us for making this choice. I truey hope that you and your kind are the minority where you work, and that you never have to experience what we went through. But I will also say that I'm old enough to believe in karma.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Terantious View Post
What a bunch of spineless weenies!!!
translation......you messed up my upgrade because we will not be getting the new 900's or your current ones...

Would you have refused to fly them for 9e guys taking one for the team and sticking it to the man?
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb View Post
That's classic lol somebody who voted yes on this TA just called another regional crappy.
My statement was NOT meant to imply that Pinnacle and this TA aren't beyond crappy. It was meant to imply that almost all jobs in this sector of the business are crappy by the very nature of the agreements our companies have with the majors and the conflict of interest that exists within our "national union".
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:48 AM
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I agree 100% and like I said I wish you guys the best and hope we can all move on. Just funny there are many guys and gals out there believe their crappy regional is better than another crappy regional

Don't worry guys we will have a shortage soon and all regionals will shut down and we will all go to majors! I've waited 13 years, surely it won't be another 13 before the shortage begins!
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
That's the problem. You think we are just bystanders.
Actually we are all in this together.
Sure, sure we are. That's why your airline offered us all jobs at no loss of pay, right?
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MyMamma View Post
The 1% that voted NO can still complain
exactly, ill still gripe.....im disappointed this passed. and i do understand both sides of the issue, however I think this sets another lower wall to the rest of the industry.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:18 PM
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What is up with you guys thinking you should've gotten some sort of integration help from another airline? What are you smoking? Should other ALPA airlines have offered preferential interviews? Shoot yeah! But seniority and longevity??? You're nuts!

Good luck though, we're all going to need it now.
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Originally Posted by McNugent View Post
What is up with you guys thinking you should've gotten some sort of integration help from another airline? What are you smoking? Should other ALPA airlines have offered preferential interviews? Shoot yeah! But seniority and longevity??? You're nuts!

Good luck though, we're all going to need it now.
Because everyone likes to sling the mud on us for voting this in based how how they think it will affect them. The alternative for us would have been no job at all or starting over at another regional at less pay, both of which are worse than eating this **** sandwich IMO. No one expects their seniority and pay to transfer to another company...this is the airline industry after all.
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