The only incentive that the bro people have is the assumption that they will fly the jet in the near future. You'd think the company would realize that it will be hard to pass this if the bro guys all vote no...maybe that's what they want?

 

A 1% pay raise? The pay raise I just got at my mall retail job was 3%!

 

What a joke. I told my fiancee (who flies the Bro) that I would be for even the 1% but for everyone. Like the company is going to go out of business if it gives the 600 Bro pilots 1%? I am ready to write a hate letter to Brad Holt or whoever is in charge of this slap in the face myself. They should be ashamed of themselves. To give nothing to anyone is more respectable than this insult.

 

Thats kinda cool that you fly a 76 and your future husband is on the 120. I bet I know who wears the pants in the relationship hehe

 

Skywest has some of the best hourly rates & work rules in the regional industry. That said, it is very, very disappointing that Skywest is unwilling to pay more than $20 bucks per hour to fly up to 76 seat aircraft.

What is even more disappointing is SAPA can't/won't fight for more and it seems a many Skywest pilots are willing to accept such a ****-poor hourly rate for first-year FOs.

 

Good point

 

Guys don't vote it down. If we do then we'll get nothing anytime soon. I say vote it in and go union. If we vote it down then when we go union we’ll have our current pay and for the next 1-4 years. We can't expect management to negotiate like Southwest and get a great contract in 1 year. Its obvious SKW has lost it's commitment to us.

I say ”TAKE THE MONEY AND SLAP THEM IN THE FACE WITH THE UNION!!!!!!!!”

 

That argument is really shooting yourself in the foot....If you committ to a deal for 4 more years, there will be nothing the union can do for 4 years. Unions work happens when contracts near their expiration/expire. Getting a union itself is no "slap in the face." Get the union and give it a chance to improve the situation.

 

It's obvious that you don't understand "At Will Employment." There is NO CONTRACT, PERIOD. Management is able to change our work rules and pay as they wish. This is one of many reasons why SKW will go union. If we accept the current proposal and go union then our current pay does not become a contract because there is "NO" contract. No, what happens is that the current work rules and pay are recognized under the RLA and any changes to them can be seen as illegal. The RLA prevents companies from penalizing a labor group by changing pay or work rules as a punishment for voting in a union.

Just ask Allegiant. They voted in a union and management punished them by changing pay and quality of life. The union filed a lawsuit under the RLA and won back pay for the labor group.

WE HAVE NO CONTRACT AT SKW AND THE CURRENT PAY PROPOSAL IS NOT A CONTRACT!!!!!

Because we have no contract, there is no restriction on when we can start negotiating our FIRST CONTRACT.

 

Bogus data here. Skywest pilots can take the offered raise (do it, it's free money) and then vote in a union if desired. The union will then begin negotiations, but the current rates are locked in until the new union negotiates a contract, at which point the new contract takes effect.