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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:24 AM
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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:26 AM
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Also going to throw this out there since I am sure the germaphodes will chime in soon - consider the other crew member - if you are contagious with something, you might be doing them a favor and not flying. If you do fly, make sure you wipe down as much as you can with the sani wipes. Not sure if those do anything, but at least anything you touch might not turn into a petri dish.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Our company policy is that if you give them a "heads up", they pull you off immediately. Once the words "sick" or "fatigue" get thrown out, game over.

If you go on tape as being sick, even if you think you're good for one more leg and something happens you will probably be violated for intentionally flying sick. Intentional violation = no ASAP/ASRS.

If you're going to gut it out, just call in when you get there. A "heads up" helps the company but at the expense of risking your certificate.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:30 AM
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Another thing I forgot to mention earlier. Calling in sick for the future sure can look suspicious if you have the wrong scheduler or chief pilot looking into your situation. If you're good enough to fly now, one would have to assume that you don't know if you'll be good enough to fly later or not. You might get better over time. A chief pilot who has it out for you might interpret this good deed as a "I'm fine to operate back to base but I have a golf tee-time this afternoon and I'm going to be sick for the rest of my day."

Can you prove his assumption wrong? If he's already thinking along these lines.... likely, no.


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Also going to throw this out there since I am sure the germaphodes will chime in soon - consider the other crew member - if you are contagious with something, you might be doing them a favor and not flying. If you do fly, make sure you wipe down as much as you can with the sani wipes. Not sure if those do anything, but at least anything you touch might not turn into a petri dish.
No kidding. I hate people who fly sick. I have caught way too many peoples' "allergies" over the years.

I'm sorry you burned all your sick calls for vacation and now you can't call in sick when you actually are sick. Your horrible planning should not become my problem. Stay home.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:35 AM
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If you must give the company a heads-up prior to getting to base, do it enroute. Much easier to answer the mail that way.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
If you must give the company a heads-up prior to getting to base, do it enroute. Much easier to answer the mail that way.
I agree. Send them a heads up on the ACARS if your planning on doing this. Then it would be more like you became sick enroute. No big deal they will cover at the next landing.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
I agree. Send them a heads up on the ACARS if your planning on doing this. Then it would be more like you became sick enroute. No big deal they will cover at the next landing.
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What he said.

Never say anything on a potentially recorded line that you would not want on the front page of the USA Today. Same goes for writing in the logbook.

Once in the air inform the company that they must replace you on arrival at XXXX. Then not another word in the air, done. Call upon your arrival and inform them that you are sick, done, not another word.

This is one of those things when less is more.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 01:02 PM
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I was going to say you guys sure are paranoid, but I guess it isn't paranoia if they really are out to get you. It must suck to work at a place like that.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8nFL180nBelow
Im fairly new to 121 flying so I would like to hear some opinions on this.

On a layover at a small outstation, you wake up with a head cold or other sickness that you felt would prevent you from completing the rest of the trip. Feeling well enough to fly the one leg back to the main base, would you give crew scheduling a heads up before flying the one leg so they can have enough time to get the rest of the trip covered? Or would you wait until you landed, knowing it would likely cause a delay (or possible cancellation) of the next flights?

Ive heard its ok to call before (and I would like to be helpful when possible), but would this open you up for legal issues as to whether or not you were fit to fly the one leg back to base?

I have done the "warning" of not feeling well but I could do one leg. That was later followed up by the CP calling and telling me I was calling in sick and could no longer complete my day. Did not get in trouble, but if you are sick you are sick.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said.

Never say anything on a potentially recorded line that you would not want on the front page of the USA Today. Same goes for writing in the logbook.

Once in the air inform the company that they must replace you on arrival at XXXX. Then not another word in the air, done. Call upon your arrival and inform them that you are sick, done, not another word.

This is one of those things when less is more.
Exactly. Especially the last sentence.
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