PNCL's new CEO
02-05-2013 | 04:35 AM
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"A better idea (perhaps less legally complicated) would be to staple a wholly owned like Mesaba, implement regional aircraft pay rates similar to Jet Blue (helps retention), build a three year fence to preclude downward bidding (ie. DC9 FO to CRJ Capt) and allow senior regional pilot advancement to the major as attrition (retirements, etc.) causes losses at the top. Is that a pipe dream of what.
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Forget the recent TA pay rates. Think market economy. As the pilot shortage becomes "SEVERE" I expect the "pipe dream" to come true.
"A better idea (perhaps less legally complicated) would be to staple a wholly owned like Mesaba, implement regional aircraft pay rates similar to Jet Blue (helps retention), build a three year fence to preclude downward bidding (ie. DC9 FO to CRJ Capt) and allow senior regional pilot advancement to the major as attrition (retirements, etc.) causes losses at the top. Is that a pipe dream of what.
"Forget the recent TA pay rates. Think market economy. As the pilot shortage becomes "SEVERE" I expect the "pipe dream" to come true.
02-05-2013 | 07:49 AM
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This is not a team brought in to "shut things down." It's there to built things up. This kind of horsepower does not leave a Delta job, uproot families and move from Atlanta / Paris to MN unless they know it is long term career advancement. There is an old management expression: "When you shine like a diamond in a goats a**, don't move" for a high risk or dead end job
Wilbur is a Naval Academy graduate, has a MBA, and commanded the largest air wing in the Navy. Neuenschwander is a MBA, CPA, "integration specialist" who was heavily involved in the NWA/Delta merger. Becker is returning to HR where he has also has expertise in "integration"
They are a HQ Delta team there to build Pinnacle (still awaiting name change) way beyond 80+ airplanes and will slowly erase separate identities between Delta and its "primary" regional.
Wilbur is a Naval Academy graduate, has a MBA, and commanded the largest air wing in the Navy. Neuenschwander is a MBA, CPA, "integration specialist" who was heavily involved in the NWA/Delta merger. Becker is returning to HR where he has also has expertise in "integration"
They are a HQ Delta team there to build Pinnacle (still awaiting name change) way beyond 80+ airplanes and will slowly erase separate identities between Delta and its "primary" regional.
I do agree however, that Pinnacle will be around at least long enough to reset Skywest's rates. After that?
02-05-2013 | 08:04 AM
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I wouldn't imagine any more big changes until the new guy takes over. With JS gone JR no longer has his life jacket and I hope he gets fired. I am sure one of the first things that is going to happen is the good Ol boys club is going to get broken up. And that is fine with me.
02-05-2013 | 08:11 AM
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Shutting Comair down was precisely the reason Ryan Gumm was brought there, and IMO, this is appearing similar.
Managers don't necessarily 'uproot their families and move'. Plenty of them negotiate positive-space passes into their employment contracts. No big deal.
Also, in the case of Ryan, was brought into Comair, then moved to DPJ, now shifted to the soon-to-be-wholly-owned 9E. At that level, if you do your job, go with the strategic flow and succeed, even if eventually 9E shuts down, I'm sure DL will have positions for him and the rest of that management team elsewhere. That's why we see so many recycled names throughout the company and the industry.
Managers don't necessarily 'uproot their families and move'. Plenty of them negotiate positive-space passes into their employment contracts. No big deal.
Also, in the case of Ryan, was brought into Comair, then moved to DPJ, now shifted to the soon-to-be-wholly-owned 9E. At that level, if you do your job, go with the strategic flow and succeed, even if eventually 9E shuts down, I'm sure DL will have positions for him and the rest of that management team elsewhere. That's why we see so many recycled names throughout the company and the industry.
RG was brought into Comair as an award for getting Delta out of the F8 mess. Remember that 180 the judge made in the lawsuit to get rid of F8? Ryan Gumm. He was the VP at Comair and when JB went to Frontier RG slid into his seat to finish the job. He has a place in Delta for a long time to come and IMHO he is not there to shut 9E down. There are big plans for 9E and they are good for Delta but bad for folks who like flying airplanes for a living. Meaning keeping cost, QOL and fun down to very low levels.
02-05-2013 | 08:14 AM
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The article said "brought in as consultants". Pretty big jump to assume they're leaving Delta and uprooting families. There are plenty of higher ups here that commute in/out to their management duties.
I do agree however, that Pinnacle will be around at least long enough to reset Skywest's rates. After that?
I do agree however, that Pinnacle will be around at least long enough to reset Skywest's rates. After that?
Jay,
Article on DLNET lists the positions as CEO and COO. Something is definitely going on here - I don't see Wilbur being brought in as COO to shut down Pinnacle, but I am not certain about anything in this deal.
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02-05-2013 | 08:38 AM
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So it does, strange that the communication from the Pinnacle people said "consultants". Pretty big difference IMHO.
Who the heck knows, I can't keep up with all these moves any more. Seems to be an awful lot of effort that I would think could be better spent doing it.....let's just say.....another way.
02-05-2013 | 01:01 PM
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I don't think the pilot shortage will be "severe." Between corporate, military, the regionals, freight, etc, plenty of qualified guys are out there for the majors. Hell, even toss in places like Spirit, jetBlue and Virgin America since a lot of those guys would leave for a Delta or United. It's going to be severe for the regionals, but I think the majors will make out okay. If it starts getting tight, they'll reduce frequency by flying larger airframes or run more code share flights. The sky isn't falling yet.
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