Comair had a minimum fleet number with Delta and we all know how that turned out.

U have a huge forehead

Dude, you are full of it!

Have you read the contract yourself?

From a law perspective: the contract is so lengthy, so wordy, and filled with so many loopholes, that it virtually allows Delta to do whatever they want. The longer contracts are, the more loopholes. The shorter they are, the less loopholes.

Example, the current contract for Pinnacle to fly CRJ-200's for many years into the future was just broken. The contracts were designed to give Delta control. They hold the cards.

Things are playing out EXACTLY like ComAir.....and now ComAir's CEO, is going to be running the show.

Hmmmmmmmm............

DAL doesnt own building C, they lease it from MAC.

By good guy do you mean a guy who is either at the very bottom of the seniority list or furloughed (as a pilot) yet flies as a Captain whenever he pleases? Happened at Mesa.

Did so under the guise that being the COO entitled him to it.

cheap rates, but everyone at the top of the scale, no?

I will grant you all that nothing is guaranteed in this business, especially as it concerns DL. But you have to consider that while this situation looks alot like Comair's from the outside looking in, there are differences. Comair was bought by a very different management team a long time ago for a very different reason. They were thought to be too valuabe to DL to not be bought. The circumstances with Pinnacle are not nearly the same.

Second, yes its possible DL may want to close this place down, but for what? Why do they absolutely refuse to give their own pilots what they want as far as scope to then secure 7 years of cheap labor (even topped out) to then quickly move to shut it all down? That doesnt make business sense and is counter to DL's own best interests. The only 2 carriers cheaper than Pinnacle are Compass and Gojet. Compass being an all E-jet operator are not likely to start flying CRJs. Its possible they could wind up at Gojet, but if that was their endgame, why didnt they just do it already. Why negotiate a deal for preferrential hiring with us, cash payouts, and furlough benefits including paying for f/os to get their ATPs if they really wanted and could have awarded all these airplanes to Gojet in the first place?

Again Im not claiming to be smarter than DL execs and I have no emotional ties to this place. In fact, I hope to be long gone before the final act of this **** show plays out, but if any of you can answer my questions, Im listening.

They plan to streamline us and sell us off to the highest bidder. His job is to facilitate that. Expect to see temporary management (less than 3 years). IMHO they will fail and ship the 900's off like Comair. Delta cannot succesfully manage a regional airline and they have the track record to prove it. It's just a matter of time. Good luck to us all.

so what? if your top out rate is the same as the other's middle-longevity rates, it doesn't matter. How it it more expensive for a 12 year Pinnacle CA at $88/h more harmful than a 9 year brand X CA at $88/hr who will be climbing the longevity scale to be a $100/hr CA?? What if Pinnacle only had 1 year pay rates of $30/hr and $80/hr for FO and CA? They would be topped out but still cheaper. So you are saying we weren't as expensive as before when we weren't topped out and made alot more, but now that we make alot less but are topped out we cost more just doesn't make sense.

Top of the scale stops at 89 pathetically plus people will be leaving from the top